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Old 04-20-2018, 02:23 PM   #15
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power doesnt chance your balance.

Get some stickier tires first.
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power doesnt chance your balance.

Get some stickier tires first.
Right, but anything to spin less. It can spin shifting in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th with the boost. I haven't had issues with losing control, but could easily do so if not paying attention. I was hoping for all possibilities in lowering that breaking free of traction, especially so easily. I figured tires would be the first and most recommended, and I will be getting stickier tires once it is out of the shop, but beyond that what would be the next item to work on/research?

Again, thanks for the responses/discussion @ all.
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Good tires, good alignment, and drivers education (which is something all of us need more of).

There are shock adjustments that could be made to cope with lots of power, but they may or may not be a net positive for you and not all shocks have the adjustability/consistency to reliably dial that in. That's still only a small part of your issue.

Get the basics right first. Your issue is not a "not enough parts" issue.

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Right, but anything to spin less. It can spin shifting in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th with the boost. I haven't had issues with losing control, but could easily do so if not paying attention. I was hoping for all possibilities in lowering that breaking free of traction, especially so easily. I figured tires would be the first and most recommended, and I will be getting stickier tires once it is out of the shop, but beyond that what would be the next item to work on/research?

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That is going to depend heavily on what you want the car to do. Drag suspension will greatly help with grip in a straight line, but you'll be giving up lots of cornering ability.
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Good tires, good alignment, and drivers education (which is something all of us need more of).

There are shock adjustments that could be made to cope with lots of power, but they may or may not be a net positive for you and not all shocks have the adjustability/consistency to reliably dial that in. That's still only a small part of your issue.

Get the basics right first. Your issue is not a "not enough parts" issue.

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Yes sir! Getting alignment from the shop, and will be getting new tires asap, which I should have done a while ago. The ones I threw on there were cheap and likely garbage (No brand/model out of fear, lol). I just didn't prioritize tires over the other items I've been working on/adding.

Recommendations for best bang for buck roadster/windy back roads tires?
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cjd: not only perfect drivers are needed, but also perfect road surface .. which is rare mythical beast rarely seen even on track and almost never on badly maintained public roads. Even more so in winter with snow/ice thrown in mix.
In my eyes having slight rear toe-in's on RWD cars pros outweight cons 90% of a time, both on track & DD. It made car much easier to drive/control under throttle both coming out of corners on track at higher exit speeds and simplified driving in winter instead of nervous balancing on edge with throttle & countersteering with often messing up (though i admit, that maybe less toe-in was not only culprit, it might be also bad uneven between sides stock alignment too, as most often under throttle car tended to oversteer rear to one side. I should have asked initial stock alignment numbers for reference, but forgot).
Of course, everything depends on dose and medicine may turn into poison, and excessive toe will quickly grow cons like car not willing to rotate, being more numb, and with excessive tire wear and fuel mileage dropping, making cons outweighting pros. Balance/art of suspension tuning i guess.
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That is going to depend heavily on what you want the car to do. Drag suspension will greatly help with grip in a straight line, but you'll be giving up lots of cornering ability.
Still want my stock experience with a bit more oomph.
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Yes sir! Getting alignment from the shop, and will be getting new tires asap, which I should have done a while ago. The ones I threw on there were cheap and likely garbage (No brand/model out of fear, lol). I just didn't prioritize tires over the other items I've been working on/adding.

Recommendations for best bang for buck roadster/windy back roads tires?
Pilot super sports are pretty sweet if you care about comfort, but I think your current spring rates would expose the sidewalk flex on a canyon run imo, especially doing auto x or track.

I just got Federal RS-RR and they have so much grip but I sound like a divebombing ww2 plane because of how much noise they make. I think you’ll want to do something similar to this tire to get the grip you want during boost. $400 for the set lol.
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Right, but anything to spin less. It can spin shifting in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th with the boost. I haven't had issues with losing control, but could easily do so if not paying attention. I was hoping for all possibilities in lowering that breaking free of traction, especially so easily. I figured tires would be the first and most recommended, and I will be getting stickier tires once it is out of the shop, but beyond that what would be the next item to work on/research?

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How much power do you make?

At 450 crank hp, I can't spin 2nd with 265 MPSS when they're warmed up.
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I haven't dynoed yet. A guy with a very similar setup (same kit) was pushing about 280 whp.

I'm looking at:

245 - 255/35-45/18

Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110
Firestone Firehawk Indy 500
And the MSPSS

Feel free to suggest sizes or anything else. I haven't had my car for 1-2 months now and I think I'm even dumber than I used to be, lol.
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245 - 255/35-45/18

Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110
Firestone Firehawk Indy 500
And the MSPSS
If any of those are an upgrade from what you're currently running, then that's the problem right there.
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https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...et?perfType=MP

Continental Extremecontact Sport doesn't show up on that chart for some reason, but should be better than the MPSS
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