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Old 11-25-2016, 01:09 PM   #15
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Where i live, we have high humidity, heat, and salty water, and i have yet to see signs of rust in the past 4 years. I don't have harsh winters as i live in a more tropical area, but my car is holding up very well.

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Yep, warm costal areas can be as bad or worse for rusting cars than northern places where it freezes half the year. People freak out over the salt we get on the cars here but the salt does nothing it is the moisture it attracts and holds that is the issue. When cold enough there is no free moisture to trap and hold so much of the winter is not causing harm. It is the spring and fall where it is salty and damp that the serious damage can occur. Just wash it on a regular basis (sounds counter intuitive but it isn't) so the salt isn't there and no real issues should appear.
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Old 11-25-2016, 01:22 PM   #16
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Interesting, because the only rust I have on my car, is on uncoated bolts and where I have paint chips

Funny that you take one anecdotal case as gospel, especially since you have zero personal experience with winter driving your car.
Wow good to know than. I guess this video stuck with me throughout the years and my mind probably kept building a case that these cars rust easy.

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Wow that guy is a true douche in so many ways! So because the car has stamped or cast steel components it will become a rust bucket "eventually"?


LOL NEWSFLASH: All cars are made with stamped or cast steel components. Every freaking one of them! What did he expect to find under there titanium and carbon fiber?


This is the sort of bullshit misinformation which is spread so easily now. Ya the guy can express an opinion but he states his as undeniable fact yet most of what he says is pure crap. Dude in the video if you are on here (probably one of the big whiners) step up and let's discuss your "facts".


Come on Imp I know you are better than to fall for that stuff!
Haha, good to know. Yeah as I wrote to Cole...for me I guess this video made me assume that these cars rust easy. I just usually find that guys review knowledgeable so I believed him.
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Old 11-25-2016, 01:25 PM   #17
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Wow good to know than. I guess this video stuck with me throughout the years and my mind probably kept building a case that these cars rust easy.



Haha, good to know. Yeah as I wrote to Cole...for me I guess this video made me assume that these cars rust easy. I just usually find that guys review knowledgeable so I believed him.
LOL Seeming to be knowledgeable and actually being so are two totally different things.
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Old 11-25-2016, 01:27 PM   #18
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I have been getting mine rust proofed every year. I have a mazda also that was never rust proofed and its a rust bucket. Its painful to work on the it, when every time some bolt breaks. I plan to keep my BRZ for a while and don't want to be cursing and yelling when under the car coz everything is rusted and seized in few years.

But as everyone else said, regular car wash is necessary to keep salt off, even if you have your car rust proofed.
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Old 11-25-2016, 01:51 PM   #19
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Where did you hear they are "rust buckets"? I am rust free after two winters and expect it to last for years. The day of rusting away in 3 or 4 years is long gone (except for Mazdas for some reason). Walk through any parking lot and see just how few 10 or 15 year old cars have rust on them. I remember a day when a 5 year old car would be literally falling apart (looking at you 80s Fords and Dodges) but now there ay be a tiny speck in a seam someplace and people freak out.
The value of rustproofing is questionable these days but as Fuji said for $119 it sure can't hurt.
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I have been getting mine rust proofed every year. I have a mazda also that was never rust proofed and its a rust bucket. Its painful to work on the it, when every time some bolt breaks. I plan to keep my BRZ for a while and don't want to be cursing and yelling when under the car coz everything is rusted and seized in few years.

But as everyone else said, regular car wash is necessary to keep salt off, even if you have your car rust proofed.

Comparing rust on a Mazda to any other car made in the last 15 years really isn't fair!
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Has anyone had their frs sprayed at krown?
Is there any way to do it without having holes drilled?

I member reading that most modern cars already have holes in the doors and panels for this purpose so that drilling isn't necessary (since the unpainted spots will definitely rust). But judging by some of the responses here, holes are still going to be drilled into the car.

I had my dealer apply undercoat and rust proof when I got the car a year ago and am thinking of going to krown to spray it again this year.
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Comparing rust on a Mazda to any other car made in the last 15 years really isn't fair!
I totally agree....but I still get nightmares from working on my rusted mazda.

Just last week, I broke brake bleed screw while trying to bleed my brake....a stupid bleed screw coz it was rusted to hell, took me full day to fix it, what should have taken 20mins.
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I totally agree....but I still get nightmares from working on my rusted mazda.

Just last week, I broke brake bleed screw while trying to bleed my brake....a stupid bleed screw coz it was rusted to hell, took me full day to fix it, what could have taken 20mins along with winter tire change.

LOL I did frame of restorations on a 64 1/2 Mustang, a 64 Karmann Ghia and a 58 Chev and had less hassles than helping my son in law work on his 2001 Protégé in 2006!
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Wife and I buy new cars simultaneously every ten years. Previous to the FRS, we both had 2002 Mazda Proteges.

Wife Unit did not do any rust control
I oil sprayed (Krown) every fall.

About year six her car started to show signs of rust. By the end of the ten years, it was what I would call a "Rusty car" but still good enough to pass an Ontario Safety inspection.

My car lagged by about 3 years with rust becoming evident around year 8.

Funny enough, when we went to replace the cars, the dealers only offered $300 in both instances. We just donated them to friends who needed a car and they lasted another 3 and 4 years.

So, all else being equal, the Wife-Unit had an extra $1200 in her new-car account compared to me since she did not spend it on oil spray.
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Wife and I buy new cars simultaneously every ten years. Previous to the FRS, we both had 2002 Mazda Proteges.

Wife Unit did not do any rust control
I oil sprayed (Krown) every fall.

About year six her car started to show signs of rust. By the end of the ten years, it was what I would call a "Rusty car" but still good enough to pass an Ontario Safety inspection.

My car lagged by about 3 years with rust becoming evident around year 8.

Funny enough, when we went to replace the cars, the dealers only offered $300 in both instances. We just donated them to friends who needed a car and they lasted another 3 and 4 years.

So, all else being equal, the Wife-Unit had an extra $1200 in her new-car account compared to me since she did not spend it on oil spray.

Did yours have the anti rust modules installed? My son in laws did and it obviously didn't help since his was very badly rusted after only 5 years. His one front tower was almost rusted through.
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These cars come rubber coated from the factory, and the body is fully galvanized. Why the sweat?
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Did yours have the anti rust modules installed? My son in laws did and it obviously didn't help since his was very badly rusted after only 5 years. His one front tower was almost rusted through.
The modules don't work. You need an electrolyte for the electricity to pass through in order for cathodic protection to work.

Though, getting it for the warranty isn't a bad idea.
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These cars come rubber coated from the factory, and the body is fully galvanized. Why the sweat?
Where did you get the information that the body is galvanized? first I have heard.

TCoat: Not sure what "Module" you speak of unless it is one of the snake oil modules sold to electronically replace the electrons consumed during the chemical reaction that converts iron to iron oxide. Wont work on a car for the same reason that sacrificial anodes don't work on cars. I could argue that they could create their own problems by having panels at different potentials.
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Where did you get the information that the body is galvanized? first I have heard.
https://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?W...ModelYear=2017

Check exterior features. Couldn't find it on the US site, probably cause most americans don't care.

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