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[Sam Strano]

R1's link compression and rebound together, that's really not wise, or what you want to do. Compression and rebound do different jobs, and linking them up is easy, and cheap, but is the suspension equivalent to tuning an engine and adding fuel because you added timing, just because you can't do one without the other.

R2's are the ones with the bottles, and those split compression and rebound, which is different and better. That said, KW's have a lifetime warranty, Eibach a 2 year warranty.

I run KW's on my own car, and I've been thrilled with them. Twin tube vs. mono-tube is so overhyped it's not funny. We aren't driving race cars with 20mm of total suspension movement, so the 2 or 3mm quicker the mono's react is really a pretty moot point. I've had crappy monotubes, and great ones, the point be it's the valving that matters much more than the construction. Some of the worst shocks ever are OEM GM shocks from deCarbon. They invented the monotube (look it up), Bilstein's are built of that very patent... and they sucked. Not because the design does, but because what GM wanted for valving did.

I've also been down the AST route. Wasn't happy. Sold my set after a year of f*cking around with them, even stopped selling them because it was nothing but a headache, constantly.

[gmookher]

Originally Posted by brianlo622

gmookher: Thanks for the pretty detailed POV on the two products. Seems like you did your homework when you chose your coilover.

I am REALLY leaning towards the Eibach Multip Pro R1 coilovers (monotube design, external resevoir on more expensive models, Researched, Designed, and Manufactured in the US, more affordable than either the GC or the KWs) Any thoughts on those?

What are you looking at spending in the r1s, if you dont mind my being nosy?

as reputed as a coil winder, they dont strike me as a damper vendor I would choose 1st; that said, eibach prolly better than fortune,or <eek> bc or megan..

why not buy a set of h&r's or rce's for now run them on stock dampers, and get a damper you're sure about later? that said I'm curious too, what are they like?

[jdzumwalt]

I want to add that when the Bilstien's come out I may be switching to these units. Rebuild-able, local to me in SD and have a great reputation also.

[brianlo622]

Originally Posted by gmookher

What are you looking at spending in the r1s, if you dont mind my being nosy?

as reputed as a coil winder, they dont strike me as a damper vendor I would choose 1st; that said, eibach prolly better than fortune,or <eek> bc or megan..

why not buy a set of h&r's or rce's for now run them on stock dampers, and get a damper you're sure about later? that said I'm curious too, what are they like?

I think the Eibach R1s are in the $1600 to $1700 range. Yes, it wasnt until recently that Eibach got into making dampers.. that I have to agree.

The other choices I am looking at are the KWs, RSRs, and now the GC.

I do need the additional clearance since I will be running some 18x9 +45 aftermarket wheels (Volk TE37SLs) so springs along wont cut it