18" vs. 17" Stock?

[Silver Cervy]

Originally Posted by FNCrazy

I assume this offset thing has a definition and explanation somewhere?

Don't worry bro, I already made a fool of myself asking for an explanation of wheel offset, so you don't have to.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107037

If you plan on lowering the car at all, I'd say stick with 17's cause you will definitely get a harsher ride with 18's (unless you have a super squishy butt like Mav has ). 17's still look good on a car as small as the twins.

[Shinigami301]

Gotta say, I'm really liking the TRD 18's and Conti DW's over the stock combination. Perfect in my local canyons. WAY better than the OEM's in every way (obviously different rubber of course).

I think I will put the OEM's on my Celica GT-S (for a +1 over the 16's that one came with) and get a set of full snows on the existing GT-S wheels for when the white stuff comes. I pulled the TPMS sensors from the OEM wheels and put them in the TRD's, so nothing lost running the OEM 86 wheels on the Celica (no TPMS on that one).

Will keep the 86 garaged when there's below-freezing/salt/crap on the roads, and run the Celica with full snows when the time comes.

[venturaII]

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

If you want more comfort do it. Only downside is tire selection is shrinking every year. You can't find decent summer tires as of late. All seasons are what your left with.

Dunno about that. I've got Ecsta XS in 225/50-16s right now, and will be replacing them likely with the new V720s at the end of the year. Several other options in the same category and size as well.

[ChrisSC300]

In my opinion, most people purchased this car for its handling and driving dynamics. Don't screw it up by just slapping on some cheap 18in wheels just because they look good. (XXR, cough)

Our cars are already slow and adding more weight to each corner just makes them slower.

There are 18 wheels out there that look amazing, are forged & light. However they cost around 3K, more than most want to spend on wheels.

17's look almost as good, are lighter, cheaper, and tires are less expensive as well.

Do your research. Find a wheel size and width that is good for your intended purpose. 17x7-17x8 if all you do is street drive, 17x9 if you intend to autocross.

My 17x9 with 245/40 tires & only lowered 20mm (0.8in). Still comes in less per corner than stock with much more tire to work with.

[s14sleepyeyez]

I don't know about any of you guys but i noticed a dip in my fuel mileage when I had my Work S1R's 18x9 fronts and 18x10 rears. Since going back to stock 17's, I am back to almost getting 400 mile to a tank as opposed to barely 300. Sorry to thread jack, but Id say for my next wheel setup Im going 17x9 or 17x9.5

[Silver Cervy]

Originally Posted by s14sleepyeyez

I don't know about any of you guys but i noticed a dip in my fuel mileage when I had my Work S1R's 18x9 fronts and 18x10 rears. Since going back to stock 17's, I am back to almost getting 400 mile to a tank as opposed to barely 300. Sorry to thread jack, but Id say for my next wheel setup Im going 17x9 or 17x9.5

Simply put, your bigger, wider tires are reducing your fuel mileage because they are increasing the amount of weight and road friction the engine has to overcome to move the car. If you're going to get bigger tires for this car you'll have to deal with sacrificing a few mpg's.

[Shinigami301]

Over the past 200 mi running the Conti DW's and TRD 18's, I've been within 0.1 MPG average (currently 28.8) with the OEM 17's, same route and same temperatures.

If there's a difference (of course there is a very slight one) the grip through the canyons with no yowl and no sketchiness is worth it.

[Yoniyama]

I was in a marketing class for my MBA (many, many years ago). A person (I think a Marketing Director) from GM came to talk about marketing strategy for Hummer. The primary buyers were: macho males, smaller men with self-esteem problem, and women looking for security. Apparently few Hummer users ever went off-road.

He also spoke about the trend of fitting bigger and bigger wheels to cars. Apparently monster wheels were becoming a modern-day phallic symbol. For some (smaller) men with self-esteem problem (and couldn't afford a Hummer), monster wheels have become their way to attain self-esteem.

I hope this hypothesis is not well known among women, lest they start associating monster wheels with (smaller) men with self-esteem issues.

I guess slowing down the car, burning more fuel, harder ride, and more road noise is a small price to pay for a 'trendy appearance' and remedy for the lack of self-esteem.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Yoniyama

I was in a marketing class for my MBA (many, many years ago). A person (I think a Marketing Director) from GM came to talk about marketing strategy for Hummer. The primary buyers were: macho males, smaller men with self-esteem problem, and women looking for security. Apparently few Hummer users ever went off-road.

He also spoke about the trend of fitting bigger and bigger wheels to cars. Apparently monster wheels were becoming a modern-day phallic symbol. For some (smaller) men with self-esteem problem (and couldn't afford a Hummer), monster wheels have become their way to attain self-esteem.

I hope this hypothesis is not well known among women, lest they start associating monster wheels with (smaller) men with self-esteem issues.

I guess slowing down the car, burning more fuel, harder ride, and more road noise is a small price to pay for a 'trendy appearance' and remedy for the lack of self-esteem.

18s with low profile tires are not "monster wheels"

[brandonblt2]

Originally Posted by Yoniyama

I was in a marketing class for my MBA (many, many years ago). A person (I think a Marketing Director) from GM came to talk about marketing strategy for Hummer. The primary buyers were: macho males, smaller men with self-esteem problem, and women looking for security. Apparently few Hummer users ever went off-road.

He also spoke about the trend of fitting bigger and bigger wheels to cars. Apparently monster wheels were becoming a modern-day phallic symbol. For some (smaller) men with self-esteem problem (and couldn't afford a Hummer), monster wheels have become their way to attain self-esteem.

I hope this hypothesis is not well known among women, lest they start associating monster wheels with (smaller) men with self-esteem issues.

I guess slowing down the car, burning more fuel, harder ride, and more road noise is a small price to pay for a 'trendy appearance' and remedy for the lack of self-esteem.

People like bigger wheels simply because they fit the wheel wells better. Nothing to do with self esteem.

[s14sleepyeyez]

Originally Posted by Silver Cervy

Simply put, your bigger, wider tires are reducing your fuel mileage because they are increasing the amount of weight and road friction the engine has to overcome to move the car. If you're going to get bigger tires for this car you'll have to deal with sacrificing a few mpg's.

And definitely was not worth sacrificing lol.

[FNCrazy]

I actually like my 17's,which really surprised me. I had 20's on my last. Now though I really need Springs to pull it down

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[Silver Cervy]

@Yoniyama sounds like to me. Especially in our case, most of us just want bigger wheels because the stock tires have both a vertical and horizontal gap which looks ugly af. There's nothing wrong with wanting to make your car look nicer.

Now if we're talking about people like THIS:

That's a different story.