This amused me, Scion Badge

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Subaru had to spec that label on the parts though. Those little words on the back cost sombody something. Nothing from the suppliers is free and they don't add anything that is not on the spec sheet.

Oh I know, hence my comment.

I'm fairly certain this is sourced from the same supplier as non-FRS Scion vehicles, but they had to stamp it to differentiate where the part is ultimately going to. Otherwise, to the average worker it may easily get mixed up as going to Toyota when it should be going to Subaru for assembly.

-alex

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Oh I know, hence my comment.

I'm fairly certain this is sourced from the same supplier as non-FRS Scion vehicles, but they had to stamp it to differentiate where the part is ultimately going to. Otherwise, to the average worker it may easily get mixed up as going to Toyota when it should be going to Subaru for assembly.

-alex

Would it matter? 1,000 in this box, 3,000 in that box, who cares if it's going to a factory in Japan or Thailand or Mexico?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Would it matter? 1,000 in this box, 3,000 in that box, who cares if it's going to a factory in Japan or Thailand or Mexico?

it would, if it was made specifically for the curvature of a car.

Given Toyota's Just-In-Time manufacturing philosophy, every piece counts.

-alex

[F R YESS]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Oh I know, hence my comment.

I'm fairly certain this is sourced from the same supplier as non-FRS Scion vehicles, but they had to stamp it to differentiate where the part is ultimately going to. Otherwise, to the average worker it may easily get mixed up as going to Toyota when it should be going to Subaru for assembly.

-alex

Everything makes sense now lol

I've always wondered why damned near every single piece of my car I examine/remove/ replace has a "Subaru." I always just assumed Subaru wasn't 100% glad to be building the car in the first place so this was their passive way at getting even

So, if I were to examine my brother-in-laws GTO, would it have Holden stamps everywhere?? Now, I'm curious

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by mav1178

it would, if it was made specifically for the curvature of a car.

Given Toyota's Just-In-Time manufacturing philosophy, every piece counts.

-alex

Interesting, I figured that was another driver for the different bumpers and the awkward flat spot that's not noticeable with the badge on but prominent with it off. Figured it'd be more in-line with Toyota's lean manufacturing philosophy to not have various options based on a arbitrary curve.

The more you know.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Oh I know, hence my comment.

I'm fairly certain this is sourced from the same supplier as non-FRS Scion vehicles, but they had to stamp it to differentiate where the part is ultimately going to. Otherwise, to the average worker it may easily get mixed up as going to Toyota when it should be going to Subaru for assembly.

-alex

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Would it matter? 1,000 in this box, 3,000 in that box, who cares if it's going to a factory in Japan or Thailand or Mexico?

The parts business is often weird and convoluted. The front badge may come from one supplier and the rear another with the fender garnish coming from yet a 3rd. The average worker would have nothing to do with the shipping logistics and those that handle it would not be looking to see what is stamped on the back of the parts in the package. A simple part number would be all that is required. No idea why they felt the need to have Subaru spelt out on half the parts.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The parts business is often weird and convoluted. The front badge may come from one supplier and the rear another with the fender garnish coming from yet a 3rd. The average worker would have nothing to do with the shipping logistics and those that handle it would not be looking to see what is stamped on the back of the parts in the package. A simple part number would be all that is required. No idea why they felt the need to have Subaru spelt out on half the parts.

I've been to factories in Asia, both high quality OE suppliers as well as the cheapest of the cheap, and I can tell you that more often than not, badges are just made based on a mold in a bin and no one even bothers to label it with a part number.

At the basic OE level, they just provide an internal part number... not even matched up to the OE part in question.

A lot of times the mold just has one type of stamping vs. another, and whatever that's easiest for the production worker to figure out what part number is correct is how they do it.

In some cases such as this Scion badging for a car being produced by Subaru, the easiest is to just have Subaru stamped on the back since its the only Subaru that will use a Scion badge, and it takes the guesswork out of the manufacturing process when they switch molds.

And it's not really stamped, but you get the idea.

-alex

[funwheeldrive]

Does this mean my car is technically a BRZ?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by mav1178

In some cases such as this Scion badging for a car being produced by Subaru, the easiest is to just have Subaru stamped on the back since its the only Subaru that will use a Scion badge, and it takes the guesswork out of the manufacturing process when they switch molds.

And it's not really stamped, but you get the idea.

-alex

If I know nothing else about mass manufacturing, those molds are fucking expensive, but I guess a ~60k+ run justifies the cost. Appreciate the insight.

[stevesnj]

Wow it's stamped Subaru, now I know this my life is complete!! Bad mood, deal with it!!! :P

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mav1178

I've been to factories in Asia, both high quality OE suppliers as well as the cheapest of the cheap, and I can tell you that more often than not, badges are just made based on a mold in a bin and no one even bothers to label it with a part number.

At the basic OE level, they just provide an internal part number... not even matched up to the OE part in question.

A lot of times the mold just has one type of stamping vs. another, and whatever that's easiest for the production worker to figure out what part number is correct is how they do it.

In some cases such as this Scion badging for a car being produced by Subaru, the easiest is to just have Subaru stamped on the back since its the only Subaru that will use a Scion badge, and it takes the guesswork out of the manufacturing process when they switch molds.

And it's not really stamped, but you get the idea.

-alex

LOL. I have made car parts for 30 years and think we are actually in total agreement here and are just saying the same thing in different manners.

[NWFRS]

This is like when one of my coworkers bought a Harley Sportster to turn into a board tracker/rat bike. We started tearing s#it off it..."made in China"...everywhere.

Oh wait. It's not like that at all.

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Actually, this is more representative of items that are not made by Subaru.

At the end of the day, the OE supplier is supplying parts to Subaru, not Scion/Toyota.

-alex

Does that mean Scion badges on tCs say Toyota and Scion badges on iAs say Mazda?

[krayzie]

Anyone debadged a Toyota 86 yet to see if the Toyota badge has Subaru stamped on the back as well? lol!

You know it makes sense since different Scion models might have different sized Scion badging.