Facelifted Toyota GT 86 Convertible Render Is Food For Thought - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

themadscientist · 03-23-2016, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Targa!

Packofcrows · 03-23-2016, 06:09 AM

Targa if it had 4 seater and 25 more hp/tq

finch1750 · 03-23-2016, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

I am a huge convertible fan but think these cars would suffer to much from the extra bracing and reinforcement that a convert needs. Not so bad for things like the Miata where they were designed from the start since they don't need extras. I think the targa would retain at least some of the required rigidity but still give the convert feel. Not a hope in hell that they will ever make it though and the custom ones cost about the price of a Porsche so no targa for me.

But we can always dream...

Dadhawk · 03-23-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Targa!

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Originally Posted by MisterSheep

^ I agree with @Tcoat.. I believe there should be a higher trim option that does have a targa top.

And once again the war cry goes out from us in the club...

TARGA! TARGA! TARGA!

followed by the resounding echo of

LOUVERS! LOUVERS! LOUVERS!

Must have them both. I'd even take the new "nose" and tolerate a few extra electronic gizmos of the unneeded variety if it came with both of these.

NOHOME · 03-23-2016, 09:14 AM

Backseat in the FRS is already a torture chamber, making the car a convertible would be like inventing "windboarding" for the back-seat occupants; you could drive ISIS captives around until they broke and spilled the beans.

Other than that yeah, great idea.

Tcoat · 03-23-2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME

Backseat in the FRS is already a torture chamber, making the car a convertible would be like inventing "windboarding" for the back-seat occupants; you could drive ISIS captives around until they broke and spilled the beans.

Other than that yeah, great idea.

Obviously it would become a two seater. Not unheard of historically.

Tcoat · 03-23-2016, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

And once again the war cry goes out from us in the club...

TARGA! TARGA! TARGA!

followed by the resounding echo of

LOUVERS! LOUVERS! LOUVERS!

Must have them both. I'd even take the new "nose" and tolerate a few extra electronic gizmos of the unneeded variety if it came with both of these.

NOHOME · 03-23-2016, 09:25 AM

This thread just became pointless. Mazda just bitch-slapped and slammed the door on any other company competing in the sports-car convertible market.

This is now for sale:

Dadhawk · 03-23-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME

This thread just became pointless. Mazda just bitch-slapped and slammed the door on any other company competing in the sports-car convertible market.

True...but it's still a Miata, and having seen the current one in person the current model is the Miatiaest of the Miatias so far.

Sorry, just not for me...your opinion may and can vary.

Plus no ability to have louvers!

Tcoat · 03-23-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME

This thread just became pointless. Mazda just bitch-slapped and slammed the door on any other company competing in the sports-car convertible market.

This is now for sale:

Yep and it seems to be a hit here.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103333

Could get very lonely talking to myself here in about a year. I will know how Go feels.

Edit: It appears that I will still have Hawk to talk to.

vh_supra26 · 03-23-2016, 11:08 AM

I think its a little too late for the 86 seeing how its already reaching its midlife cycle.

However, maybe a drop a roadster S-FR will be in the cards?

NOHOME · 03-23-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

True...but it's still a Miata, and having seen the current one in person the current model is the Miatiaest of the Miatias so far.

Sorry, just not for me...your opinion may and can vary.

Plus no ability to have louvers!

Having actually owned both a Miata and an FRS, I would say that the Miata is a better product. It had to appeal to a more focused group and as such its purpose was not watered down.

Because Toyota and Subaru had to cover a wider spectrum of customers, the FRS got a bit diluted in its purpose. The result is that the FRS is a so-so car with an amazing chassis. I am OK with that, and glad that I got to experience the car, but I would not buy another if they are still around when I finish with this one. The mixed parentage of the car means that I have not developed any loyalties towards Subaru or Toyota when the time comes to buy my next car.

One thing to consider is that in Canada the Miata is a 15k price jump from the FRS by the time it lands in the driveway (32K for FRS vs 45K for Miata ), so from a value standpoint the FRS is not a bad deal. But it is not a great car.

Dadhawk · 03-23-2016, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME

Having actually owned both a Miata and an FRS, I would say that the Miata is a better product. It had to appeal to a more focused group and as such its purpose was not watered down....

All reasonable points and I realize I'm in the minority on the Miata. I have driven them multiple times, and just can't bring myself to like them.

It's just, for me, they would have to change the car substantially before I would own one, although they are going in the right direction with the Targa (if it were manual). At least with the Targa it doesn't look like a cartoon bathtub on wheels.

Now, that said, I would (and it pains me to say this) take the Miata Targa over the S-FR.

gymratter · 03-23-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

All reasonable points and I realize I'm in the minority on the Miata. I have driven them multiple times, and just can't bring myself to like them.

Same here, they're just too small for me

03-23-2016, 06:09 AM	#16
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NOHOME Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: RAVEN Location: LONDON ONTARIO Posts: 795 Thanks: 86 Thanked 800 Times in 346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Backseat in the FRS is already a torture chamber, making the car a convertible would be like inventing "windboarding" for the back-seat occupants; you could drive ISIS captives around until they broke and spilled the beans. Other than that yeah, great idea.

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