follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-21-2011, 06:02 PM   #15
old greg
Rocket Surgeon
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Drives: PSM GGA OMG
Location: FL
Posts: 1,312
Thanks: 10
Thanked 141 Times in 84 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by old greg View Post
The way I look at it, the low spec model listed as being 10% more efficient than the Miata (which the EPA rates at 21/28), and 38% more efficient than the RX8 (EPA: 16/22). That equates to 22/30.5 based on the RX8 numbers, and 23/31 based on the Miata numbers. That much of a correlation between the estimates leads me to believe that they are fairly accurate.
.
old greg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2011, 06:10 PM   #16
serialk11r
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Drives: '06 AM V8V Coupe
Location: United States of America
Posts: 5,279
Thanks: 285
Thanked 1,074 Times in 759 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustAnotherNumber View Post
I gotcha. Sorry for coming across a bit harsh.
Heh it's alright, sorry I was a bit harsh too.

@old greg 23/31 EPA seems plausible, that's about in line with RSX and Celica which are I think 24/31 by today's EPA standards, possibly worse.
serialk11r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2011, 07:55 PM   #17
keiri
Toyobaru Wonder Twins™
 
keiri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Drives: 2020 Subaru BRZ Limited w/ PP
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 256
Thanks: 12
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r View Post
Heh it's alright, sorry I was a bit harsh too.

@old greg 23/31 EPA seems plausible, that's about in line with RSX and Celica which are I think 24/31 by today's EPA standards, possibly worse.
That sounds pretty good as the EPA lists my '99 GT at 20/26 and the '05 GT-S at 21/30 so 23/31 would be in line and a slight improvement.

Either way...answers in 8 days.
keiri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2011, 08:24 PM   #18
Shevon
Senior Member
 
Shevon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: Accord Coupe
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
Posts: 319
Thanks: 26
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
28city/33highway is my opinion tops--31 combined
__________________
Stop bitching and crying!! This is a NO BITCHASSNESS zone!!!
Shevon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2011, 08:27 PM   #19
Dark
Elite Padawan
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 3,498
Thanks: 197
Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
As long as it's better than my current car, IS250, which is 20mpg in the city.
__________________
Dark
Dark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2011, 11:17 PM   #20
Mr.Jay
Senior Member
 
Mr.Jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Drives: FRS :D
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 2,985
Thanks: 545
Thanked 699 Times in 438 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark View Post
As long as it's better than my current car, IS250, which is 20mpg in the city.

it should deff be better than the is250
__________________
Out of the FRS game
Mr.Jay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 12:22 PM   #21
MrVito
Grumpy Old Man
 
MrVito's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S, 2010 Tundra, 80 626
Location: Georgia
Posts: 293
Thanks: 2
Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave-ROR View Post
....I don't really care as long as it's not RX8 bad
__________________
2016 Halo FR-S, 2010 Tundra, 92 325i convertible, 80 Mazda 626, 62 Impala
MrVito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 01:01 PM   #22
Mino
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: G35 Coupe
Location: Glendale Cali
Posts: 24
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm thinking it would do better then 33 maybe a little more on highway because of its weight aerodynamics... Much better engine then the others in the examples and by better I mean newer sorry lol meaning back then those cars were made more twards hp and performance but now days car companies almost all of them even Ferrari think about fuel efficiency. And I think it will do better in city driving also mid to high 20s
Mino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 01:56 PM   #23
Dave-ROR
Site Moderator
 
Dave-ROR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Drives: Stuff
Location: Florida
Posts: 10,317
Thanks: 955
Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts
Mentioned: 262 Post(s)
Tagged: 8 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mino View Post
I'm thinking it would do better then 33 maybe a little more on highway because of its weight aerodynamics... Much better engine then the others in the examples and by better I mean newer sorry lol meaning back then those cars were made more twards hp and performance but now days car companies almost all of them even Ferrari think about fuel efficiency. And I think it will do better in city driving also mid to high 20s
Low torque so it's going to be geared short (hopefully otherwise top end will be miserable).

Still even if the EPA rating is 33 you'll see more in reality.
__________________
-Dave
Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback
DD: 2005 Acura TSX
Tow: 2022 F-450
Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX
Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build
FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles
Dave-ROR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 02:01 PM   #24
Mino
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: G35 Coupe
Location: Glendale Cali
Posts: 24
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Im goin to b running it catless for sure with most likely Hks or greddy exhaust I'm sure one of those 2 will come out with an amazing exhaust system+ intake with a nice tune should get a lot better mpgs plus a little tq and hp. But very true Dave the low tq hopefully it won't have horrible gear rations.
Mino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 03:39 PM   #25
no_name
Senior Member
 
no_name's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: 2005 Hyundai Accent
Location: Ottawa Ontario
Posts: 306
Thanks: 27
Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
For some perspective on another N/A DI 4 cyl making 200ish HP, the 2.4L Hyundai Sonata gets 24/33 (24/35 in the Kia Optima). The FT86 is lighter, probably more aerodynamic and the engine is smaller. I'm betting that Toyota can match or beat that.
no_name is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 04:30 PM   #26
2fast4you
Senior Member
 
2fast4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: 2006 Scion tC RS 2.0
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 444
Thanks: 24
Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by no_name View Post
For some perspective on another N/A DI 4 cyl making 200ish HP, the 2.4L Hyundai Sonata gets 24/33 (24/35 in the Kia Optima). The FT86 is lighter, probably more aerodynamic and the engine is smaller. I'm betting that Toyota can match or beat that.
It all depends on gearing and tire size. I can guarantee that while the FT-86 will be fuel efficient, because the final drive and gear ratios will be geared for performance, it won't be an EPA darling.
__________________
Brake. Turn. Accelerate. Repeat as necessary.
2fast4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 04:53 PM   #27
Dark
Elite Padawan
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 3,498
Thanks: 197
Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Jay View Post
it should deff be better than the is250
Hope so.
__________________
Dark
Dark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 11:03 PM   #28
midenginebias
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Drives: 2001 Mr2 Spyder
Location: OC
Posts: 127
Thanks: 10
Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
22/29 with 25 as an average.
midenginebias is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Interior Expectations Archer256 Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 57 03-31-2011 03:28 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.