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08-22-2019, 01:31 PM | #15 | |
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Now here's another thing that I'm scratching my head over..."notchy". What's that mean for a tranny? In the trumpet world, if a horn feels notchy, that's a good thing, it means there is a tight "notch" or "slot" for every note, with no free play. It means precision. Here though, it sounds like people say notchy to mean extra, clunky noises and free play. What's the deal? |
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It has been my experience with this transmission, the only time I feel it to be notchy, is when I screw up the shifting, usually by not pushing the clutch in all the way (lazy leg syndrome). Assuming that the transmission and clutch system is functioning properly and once the driver learns how to shift properly, their should be no problems smoothly shifting this transmission. humfrz |
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hmm to me that is just missing your shift which I've yet to experience on this gearbox but I can imagine it would cause a grinding sound if you didn't engage the gear completely.. to be clear you don't have to shift fast AF to get a smooth shifting feel. For the first mile on my commute each day, I shift as slow as a granny and for the most part I get a pretty smooth 1st to 2nd gear change though I do have to blip the throttle since the revs drop a bit
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Nope it will always make noises. They will just be smoother ones.
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Shifting motorcycles with no clutch like that was easy peasy, the gears just click up and down. In the car, it feels like it's too far from 1st to 2nd and the shift lever gets the door slammed shut before making it all the way to 2nd. |
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Clutchless shifts aren’t bad if you time it perfectly but even if it goes in that doesn’t mean your timing was perfect. Just close enough for the syncros to finish the job. I wouldn’t suggest doing this. It’s a good demonstration of how the tranny works but hard on the syncros.
If you really are curious how they work then watch some videos on YouTube or go to the junk yard and buy the cheapest MT you can find and tear it apart. Although this typically requires a press which most people don’t have. Having the stacks in your hand and turning them, sliding syncro hubs, etc gives a much better idea what is going on inside. |
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As far as hurting the transmission by clutch-less shifting, if the timing is correct it won't hurt it. However, learning the "timing curve" could put a bit of wear on it. The only plus in learning clutch-less shifting, over and above the timing thing, is being able to get somewhere if the clutch goes out - I remember the time, back-in-the-day, actually night when - oh humfrz, you told that story once, can't you make up any new ones - |
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You're technically adding some wear to the synchros, but it's minimal under low load conditions like this. Last edited by anticubus; 08-22-2019 at 11:09 PM. |
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The Twins have a solid single mass flywheel. They sure as hell sound like dual mass though with all the chatter. |
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Also explains why so much motion makes it through the drivetrain. I've been getting sloppy ever since I got the wrong info in my head. 😬 |
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