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Old 05-30-2012, 12:17 PM   #15
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So hows the backseat legroom compare to the Celi? That's all I've got to base it off of in my head!
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:04 PM   #16
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So hows the backseat legroom compare to the Celi? That's all I've got to base it off of in my head!
To be able to fit in the car, the driver's seat is literally pressed against the rear seats.

For me, at least... but I'm 6'7".
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So hows the backseat legroom compare to the Celi? That's all I've got to base it off of in my head!
I have 2 kids. One is 10 and the other is 7. We were able to put all 4 of us in the car but there is VERY little room between the back of the driver's seat and the back seat and I am 5'10". With my wife in the passanger seat there was more than enough room in the seat behind her. The good thing is that we very rarely all ride in my car. We have a Ford Explorer as our "Family" vehicle so it's usually just me in my car.
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I have 2 kids. One is 10 and the other is 7. We were able to put all 4 of us in the car but there is VERY little room between the back of the driver's seat and the back seat and I am 5'10". With my wife in the passanger seat there was more than enough room in the seat behind her. The good thing is that we very rarely all ride in my car. We have a Ford Explorer as our "Family" vehicle so it's usually just me in my car.
This is on the money. My 7 year old fit fine last night behind the passenger seat, but she had folded her legs on the seat.

I have ridden in the back seat just to try it, but my head hits the rear glass and the pass seat had to be pretty far forward.

IMO the rear seat is definitely kids, pets & gear only.

The Celica had more rear seat leg room, but then again it was a longer car with a shorter engine bay.
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I have a 5 year old and a 7 year old and they both fit in the back just fine. The rear passenger just needs to turn their feet out a little. I love this car! I am just looking for an excuse to go drive it. I was just in Home Depot and a couple of high school kids walked by and said sweet ride! This thing looks like a mini maserati. And it's so low to the ground. When I pull in the garage I feel like I'm sitting on the floor. I can say compared to a 1990 240sx, this has slightly more room in the back.
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This is on the money. My 7 year old fit fine last night behind the passenger seat, but she had folded her legs on the seat.

I have ridden in the back seat just to try it, but my head hits the rear glass and the pass seat had to be pretty far forward.

IMO the rear seat is definitely kids, pets & gear only.

The Celica had more rear seat leg room, but then again it was a longer car with a shorter engine bay.
i miss my celica too! love your long intake headers! they were gnarly sounding when i had them on !

i think it was the engine bay being much smaller that helped with leg room in the celi, ill miss the space of the hatch for sure!

how soon can we expect an intake manifold and ported stock headers from you ?
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Nice to hear you got one.

I am looking at this FR-S or maybe a MR-S (spyder) with 2zz as a fun car.

I would like to hear a very detailed thought from you about FR-S vs MR-S with 2zz. Also your thoughts about 2ZZ-GE vs 4U-GSE.

Enjoy your new ride!
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Congrats!
and uhh... who da hell is this jojo guy? ^
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:04 AM   #26
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We strapped the new FR-S down on the dyno today with less than 150 miles on the ODO.
Run 004 was in 3rd run 007 and 008 were in 4th:

Run 010 was in 5th, and we saw a huge jump in mid-range torque, despite a richer afr.


To address JCX4Ever's question - this is a comparison between a stock Elise 2zz-ge (over 20K so fully broken in) and the new stock FR-S (not broken in):


Both runs are STD correction on my dyno so I think the torque curve says everything that needs to be said on the matter.

I have built a bunch of 2ZZ Spyders and turbo spyders. I love them, they are awesome cars. AT this time with the lack of an ECU tuning solution for the FR-S the spyder has way more power production potential when modified.

That being said, If I had to choose one or the other, I would take the FR-S. As an overall package I think it is slightly superior to the Spyder. You get 100x more storage, the theoretical ability to transport more than 2 living beings, and the handling is comparable in terms of capability, but way more controlled and predictable in the FR-S.

Thankfully I don't have to choose between them - spyders are cheap enough these days there is no reason not to keep both!
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:38 AM   #27
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Can't wait to see what you can do with this thing Dave. I can feel the money leaking from my wallet right now... Yay!!!
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:05 PM   #28
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Congrats!

Jumping in to say I just drove mine off the lot, manual in whiteout like yours. Couldn't be more excited!
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