Honda CR-Z

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Going with the RR!



The CR-Z is starting to get a lot of attention! I'm still not a fan of the exterior but this Type R is starting to look a little ill!




A RWD Integra has been done and I think the guy even had it up for sale too.

But I do agree, it would be cool to see Honda release a rwd coupe.

Didn't one of those mags do an NSX-powered, MR, CRX for a project, too?

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Didn't one of those mags do an NSX-powered, MR, CRX for a project, too?

They built a full on drag car if thats what you're talking about.

http://www.superstreetonline.com/fea...ine/index.html

The Honda Tech forum had several RWD conversions that we were talking about in another thread. Even one with a Civic over a WRX engine n chassis! Those guys are nuts!

[cvbikeguy]

Originally Posted by RRnold

They built a full on drag car if thats what you're talking about.

http://www.superstreetonline.com/fea...ine/index.html

The Honda Tech forum had several RWD conversions that we were talking about in another thread. Even one with a Civic over a WRX engine n chassis! Those guys are nuts!

if only i could weld. that would be so much money having a shop do that.

[Allch Chcar]

Necrobump.

Wow. this is some classic FT86 offtopicness.

I bumped for the benefit of all who are talking about the Mugen CR-Z. God forbid we should stay ontopic.

[IntotheOcean]

My ex got this.
Can't wait to be like in my frs "hey check out my new car that's why cooler than yours"
Haha no but seriously, he talks shit about me to his co-workers(wtf) we broke up a year ago and it wasn't till yesterday I found this out. I honestly forgot about him-lol

I hate to be an asshole, but fuck it
I feel sorry for anyone who buys a cr-z. It's not a hybrid and it's not a sports car... What is it?
A waste of money.

And yes, this is what happens when a female is on a car forum - lol

[M-17]

I agree what Midship said so long ago.

[Guff]

Whenever I see old threads like this, I get sad, because I remember all the OGs that have since disappeared...

[#87]

Dear Diary

Originally Posted by IntotheOcean

My ex got this.
Can't wait to be like in my frs "hey check out my new car that's why cooler than yours"
Haha no but seriously, he talks shit about me to his co-workers(wtf) we broke up a year ago and it wasn't till yesterday I found this out. I honestly forgot about him-lol

I hate to be an asshole, but fuck it
I feel sorry for anyone who buys a cr-z. It's not a hybrid and it's not a sports car... What is it?
A waste of money.

And yes, this is what happens when a female is on a car forum - lol

[MarkRacerX]

Jackson Racing has a Blower in the works or out, maintains the ECO Mpg when needed too! I will look up link, but kinda a Best of Both Worlds, like close to 200whp on tap, then MPG when needed.

Bam:

http://jacksonracing.com/jackson-rac...stem-released/

[DarkSunrise]

Honda Seems Serious About New CR-Z to Fight BRZ, FR-S
Honda awakes from slumber after return of Toyota's GT86.
By Peter Lyon | Illustrations By Holiday Auto Magazine | September 13, 2013 |

Might there be a more economical, but just-as-much-fun offshoot of the Honda Civic Type R that just blasted around Germany's famed Nuburgring in under 8 minutes, crushing the Renault Megane RS's record (for fastest lap by a front-drive car)? Perhaps something like a redefined CR-Z? All indications from a source close to Honda point in that direction.

But before we get to the inside story, we need to quickly check what's happening with the new Civic Type R, which we must add, is a totally new beast when compared to the current Euro-spec Type R. Because if a new CR-Z is in the pipeline, as we are told, then we can expect it to incorporate the new Type R's architecture.

The current Euro-spec R is based on the current Jazz/Fit platform with its signature center-tank layout -- old technology-- while the new Type R employs Honda's next-gen global platform, a base that will underpin the company's worldwide Civic lineup. Okay, so in Europe and in the greater Asia region, the all-new Civic Type R will take on the flagship role, but what about Honda's biggest market, the United States?

While the American lineup did get a marginally tweaked Civic like the Mugen-tuned Civic Si, the sportier Civics offered in the U.S. were no match for the Type R's razor-edged footwork or power. And the sharp-looking CR-Z hybrid certainly had the lines but utterly failed to impress on the road, especially in the power department, leaving Americans indifferent to Honda's sporty compacts.

One other critical factor that turned American eyes away from tuned Civics and CR-Zs was the launch of the Toyota FR-S and Subaru BRZ in April of 2012. "The raw driving experience, good power, sporty look, low price and sizeable global sales figures sent a shock wave through Honda's R&D section," says our insider. Within just two months of the so-called Toyobaru's launch, Honda's Tochigi R&D centre north of Tokyo took the unprecedented step of green-lighting a souped-up CR-Z prototype packing the current Type R's 2.0-liter engine. That story was leaked, leading to the international press naming it the "CR-Z Type R." But the concept soon vanished from Honda's plans as it lacked viability and relevance on an outgoing platform.

That's why Honda of America is taking the next generation global Civic platform so seriously. They want an image leader -- like the Type R in Europe -- for their own market. And while Type Rs have never been offered in the US due to homologation and crash test regulations (so we are told) and the fact that the Civic is seen as an entry-level car, a hotter, sportier, redefined CR-Z could be just what the doctor ordered. But it could not be a coupe that nears the $40,000 sticker price of its European brother, when exchange rates are taken into account. It'd have to be priced far below that.

At Honda's R&D division, a new CR-Z prototype sits on a shortened version of the new Type R's wheelbase with a body similar in size to the current CR-Z. It is expected to employ a turbocharged 1.5-liter, direct injection 4-cylinder mated to an updated version of the current CR-Z's hybrid system and a 7-speed dual-clutch transmission. A manual, which the CR-Z shipped with before, will not be offered. Total system power will peak at around 220 hp, while the combination turbo-hybrid will generate better mileage and cleaner emissions than the Toyota or Subaru. That's nearly 100 hp more than the current CR-Z and is a bit more than the output of the 2.4-liter inline four that powers the current Civic Si. Production, we are told, will take place in the U.S., which will help keep prices under $30,000.

Our insider tells us that the new CR-Z is expected to land in showrooms around a year after the new Civic debuts in 2015. That just happens to be the time when we expect the next-generation FR-S and BRZ to appear. Let's hope that Honda's rediscovered mojo, in the form of an F1 comeback and the imminent NSX launch, translates into a strong competitor for the lauded and popular Toyota and Subaru coupes.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...#ixzz2fCfwKNqc



Subaru/Toyota really opened a lot of competitors' eyes with the successful launch of a lightweight RWD platform. Nicely done.

[OrangeJuleas]

That is one ugly rendering. Looks like the drawing they put on fictional Hot Wheels cars.

Still, I'm sure Honda will make it look pretty nice, and I know a lot of people who would need a change of underwear if they heard "CRZ Type R".

[raven1231]

looks like a genesis and a CRZ had a baby

[rice_classic]

I find it odd that I get more info about future Hondas on the FT86 Forums than I do on the actual Honda forums. Can't explain that!

I like it. I like that Honda has got the message but instead of revamping the CRZ I like the idea of the low hp, rwd roadster better.

[DAEMANO]

FWD = just another hot hatch.

The first mfg to get this through their heads and bring an affordable 200hp lightweight RWD sports car to the market will change the industry.