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Old 01-13-2014, 11:09 PM   #239
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I don't know why there are so many downers dissing on this concept. It's hard to any normal automaker to go out on a limb and pursue a sports car design of this sort. Concept cars are design studies by the design engineers, obviously the production version (if it does make it there) will be less toned down, but will likely retain much of the designs shown in the pictures. Just recall the FT86 concept and what we have today, clearly different, but also relays many of the design accents of the concept.

From a concept perspective, what's not to like? At least Toyota is putting forward effort. Heritage? They have all the pedigree they need. At least they didn't keep the Supra namesake around just to run it into the ground like Nissan did with their Z.
I love that they're putting forward an effort, but just because it's a concept doesn't mean that I have to love it. I still think the styling is off somehow. The nose's size, shape, and proportions just don't seem quite right. An F1 inspired nose can definitely work on a gorgeous road car (see: Enzo), but this one feels like it still needs a bit of work to me. If I had to describe what I feel is wrong with it, I think it's that it's a bit too busy for how long it is. I think the nose of a car can either be busy (with a lot of vents/funny shapes/etc) or large (see: Viper), but both together (like this car) seem to not quite work.

The rear end also feels a bit, well, odd to me. It's fairly busy, with a giant diffuser, fender flares, extendable wing, and the like, but then it also has that strange ducktail thing in the middle (with or without the extendable wing). It has potential, sure, but it just feels a bit off. (For what it's worth, I don't like a lot of the modern concepts/hypercars though - I think the LaFerrari and P1 also seem a bit to busy and not quite right in their appearance).

That having been said, I'd still love it if they brought something inspired by this car into production. More cars available that are aimed at enthusiasts are always a good thing. I also absolutely love the profile of the car - just not the front or rear views.
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It better come with a true 6 speed manual transmission as an option.
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I'm glad to hear that it will be around $50k-$60k.
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I'm glad to hear that it will be around $50k-$60k.
Any actual source for that? All I've heard was speculation...
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Any actual source for that? All I've heard was speculation...
Does anyone here read? See post #138

Calty's starting point was to design a sports car with a theoretical $50,000-$60,000 price tag, Hunter said. That meant designing something wild, but not so exotic that it pushed the car into the territory that would make it a Lexus.

Someone just pointed this out too me. The clay model below is probably more closer to what the production model will look like.


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I love it, and most of all I like that they didn't play it "safe" with the looks. Sure you can nitpick and say that part looks like a part on this car or that car, but as a whole you wont confuse this with any other car out there.
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I will buy this car if under 70k.
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Calty's starting point was to design a sports car with a theoretical $50,000-$60,000 price tag, Hunter said. That meant designing something wild, but not so exotic that it pushed the car into the territory that would make it a Lexus.
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It better come with a true 6 speed manual transmission as an option.
How about make it 7? The Supra had a 6 speed...in the 90s. GM, Hyundai, everyone has more gears than Toyota these days.

The only way a 50k car would look this good is if it came from Kia/Hyundai. I saw a Veloster turbo the other day, aside from the chubby proportions it looked really gorgeous. Toyota doesn't spend much money on looks, just look at how the FRS turned out after a million gorgeous concepts.
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I hope the Heads Up Monitor and Wing will make it to production,

But most likely not. Only Super cars have active aero.

LED lights will make it, because Corolla has them
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I hope the Heads Up Monitor and Wing will make it to production,

But most likely not. Only Super cars have active aero.

LED lights will make it, because Corolla has them
it will also have 4 wheels. i'm sure!
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Someone just pointed this out too me. The clay model below is probably more closer to what the production model will look like.

I like the front nose on that clay model much better than the nose on the concept.
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Motortrend's interview also has the $60k price range.

Akio's Assault Vehicle: Futuristic Sports Car Melds F1 Influences With Supra Styling


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A pencil tip moves across a sheet of paper, leaving a thin graphite line. Perhaps a millimeter across, it could be swiftly erased. Or it could become the spark for the greatest performance cars that have ever existed: perhaps Marcello Gandini's 1966 Lamborghini Miura. Or Jean Bugatti's 1937 Type 57 SC Atlantic Coupe. Very different designs, but both born of a mere line arcing across paper.

For Alex Shen, studio chief designer at Toyota's Calty Design Research in Newport Beach, California, the words describing the sports car's styling concept came first -- words like "sexy," "honest," "organic," "kick-ass." Followed by proportions -- front/mid-engine, rear drive, just the right scale. And a wild guess at price -- maybe $60,000? "It's a Toyota," says Shen. "It ought to be affordable." Only then did lines start to appear.

But when they did, it was an avalanche. Virtually every designer in the 65-person studio submitted sketches, hundreds of them, many drawn at night, some sketched on lunchtime napkins, altogether exploding the number of lines Calty's president, Kevin Hunter, and Shen's team slowly culled for the very best ideas. At least the hurricane of lines that would become their sports car was now just a flurry.

Let me back up here. Usually, when people draw cars, they're actually creating an outline, which in drawing parlance is a contour line -- delineating the "contour" between the positive space (the car) and the negative space (the emptiness around it). In the realm of car designers, the language differs; for them, the line's a "silhouette." A contour is applied across a surface to understand its shape. For Shen, though, it would be a challenge for his silhouette not to recall that of the Mark

The canted roofline creates visual stress without unbalancing the overall shape.

4 Toyota Supra. It's iconic: a long, melted nose, abrupt windshield rise, tight roof peak, and lengthy plunge to a mini ducktail flip. And it was a line Shen and his colleagues simultaneously embraced and struggled to resist. Their task was to create a Toyota sports car for the future, a point emphasized by its eventual name, "FT-1" -- for Future Toyota-One -- which recalls their stillborn 2007 FT-HS project and parallels Lexus' "LF" (Lexus Future) naming scheme. The FT-1, set to debut at the North America International Auto Show, is not a "real car," but a "concept car" -- a three-dimensional frenzy of winks and side glances, sucking scoops, and brutal downforce-generators, all peeking at us from behind a curtain where the future is being created. It's the essence of a potent potential new sports car that's for now an instant of bodywork turbulence, shock-frozen in fiberglass.

When Calty pitched its plan to Toyota's Nagoya headquarters, its timing couldn't have been better. At the 2011 Tokyo auto show, Akio Toyoda had insisted, "Now we have a new slogan, 'Fun To Drive Again.'" And he'd made no secret of wanting a Supra-like car restored to the lineup. Calty was wise to the pitfalls, too, having been down this particular road five years earlier with its hybrid-drive, Supra-esque FT-HS, a car stillborn during the freefall of the great recession. But with the world economy healing and Toyota's helm in the hands of a guy who'd donned a helmet to drive in the Nürburgring 24-hour race, the starter button was firmly pushed. With Akio's blessing, Calty's in-house Supra-esque sports car got the green light to become a concept car to be judged by the world. A timeline was plotted, milestones marked. The team set to work.

Unlike the Supra, the FT-1 has racing fingerprints all over it. The wind is shat- tered by a prow dominated by a Formula 1-inspired beak. Consequently, the radia- tor's air is divided between twin shark-like mouths, each stuffed with electric fans sitting atop angled splitters whose shape is repeated higher up via streaking light signatures that fishhook around intense, triple-LED headlights.

Moving aft, its flanks are deeply slashed by even more air intakes that are themselves subsequently engulfed by rising rocker panels that suddenly erupt into muscular rear wheel arches. The roof is a sort of double-bubble, and the frenzy stays nonstop all the way to a tail that reminds you of a prototype sports racing car's, complete with Venturi tunnel openings, a dense array of 35 tiny LED foglights, extendable wing, and twin storm- drain exhausts. None of this is by accident. During the FT-1's gestation, Calty (involved in shaping Toyota's Camry NASCAR racer) frequently consulted nearby Toyota Racing Development to ensure its shape was consistent with a sports car's engineering demands. The result is called "functional sculpting."

Red, which emphasizes highlights, was the only color ever considered.

Classic "silhouette cars" -- ones you'd be inclined to draw in outline -- are typically relaxed, simple fuselage forms that tran- quilly speak to you through their broad pools of subtly reflected light. Think of the soft, slightly balloon-ish shapes from the '50s and '60s -- a particularly good example for me being the Lancia Aurelia B20.On the other hand, "gesture" in drawing puts an emphasis on the action and vitality. A good (or bad) example of gesture is the 1984 Ferrari Testarossa, a very, very busy design. Draw it, and your pencil becomes animated trying to capture the long strakes across its mammoth side-radiator gills. Recently, this sort of hyperactive, big-sculpture automotive design seems to be reemerging: the new Corvette, anyone? The FT-1's extreme gesture mixes positive and negative space even more turbulently; somehow, it's both windswept and forward-leaning.
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