Intake Shootout! Injen vs AFE vs AVO vs AiRaid vs STOCK!

[smokd]

So it's been awhile since I installed the perrin inlet tube with the K&N drop in. I also plugged the whole in the passenger footwell to really complete the job. What i noticed right after installing everything was that the edu definitely needed about 30 miles to "learn" the new airflow patterns and adapt. After this 30 mile period, the car felt smoother and was so much more quiet. I can't recommend this setup enough for those wanting to eliminate the sound tube and gain a couple hp in the process. I'm confident that with the full complement of bolt ons and a tune, this intake setup will make as much hp as any intake on the market.

[Astroboy]

We need an fa20club intake

[skye67]

Oh stop it. Just mod the stock intake behind the bumper and be done with it.

[BoxRZ_86]

im really curious for a comparison between injen and perrin as well. that would help greatly in my decision.

[CajunFRS]

Originally Posted by Astroboy

We need an fa20club intake

I don't think we need anything to do with fa20club period.

[StormTrooper]

This thread is full of fail......

The whole premise of using the stock tune with an intake is wrong.
It's obvious that the Afr changes are what affected the power curve.

I expected better from Drift office.

[BoxRZ_86]

Originally Posted by StormTrooper

This thread is full of fail......

The whole premise of using the stock tune with an intake is wrong.
It's obvious that the Afr changes are what affected the power curve.

I expected better from Drift office.

I think they are showing what the average person can expect when they upgrade the intake. I think your right with a tune most would perform better. But someone like me I would love to know what intake without a tune will I get the best results out of.


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[Victor Draken]

Originally Posted by Sanka86

I think they are showing what the average person can expect when they upgrade the intake. I think your right with a tune most would perform better. But someone like me I would love to know what intake without a tune will I get the best results out of.


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It's not true, most with a tune will perform worse because tuner will not make it run leaner anymore as much as it happens with stock tune and new intake.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by Victor Draken

It's not true, most with a tune will perform worse because tuner will not make it run leaner anymore as much as it happens with stock tune and new intake.

I don't understand... leaner is leaner period. Does not matter if the tuner makes it leaner by taking fuel out of the fuel map or the intake throws off the afr.. if there is power to be gained on a particular car by going leaner it will make power either way (tuner or filter).

However, if the intake messes with the calculated load (and it certainly will if it changes the afr, in fact that is why the afr changes, because the flow around the sensor causes a deviation from stock maf scaling) then the tuner will need to take that into account because load affects all of the control systems, not just the fuel but also timing, avcs angle, etc.

[Victor Draken]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

I don't understand... leaner is leaner period. Does not matter if the tuner makes it leaner by taking fuel out of the fuel map or the intake throws off the afr.. if there is power to be gained on a particular car by going leaner it will make power either way (tuner or filter).

However, if the intake messes with the calculated load (and it certainly will if it changes the afr, in fact that is why the afr changes, because the flow around the sensor causes a deviation from stock maf scaling) then the tuner will need to take that into account because load affects all of the control systems, not just the fuel but also timing, avcs angle, etc.

I was not able to explain myself correctly. Most of the intake looks like they are providing an increase in power on stock tune, just because it makes the car run leaner.

If the car is tuned with the intake, the tuner has hopefully take in account it and tuned the car properly so mostly the increase will not be as strong as before when the car was not tuned and was running much leaner.

[StormTrooper]

Meaning if you tune the stock intake you'll make the same power and it'll be smoother.

If that is really the case then just buy a sticker

[Victor Draken]

Originally Posted by StormTrooper

Meaning if you tune the stock intake you'll make the same power and it'll be smoother.

If that is really the case then just buy a sticker

the stock intake is more or less already tuned on stock map.

maybe i'm completely blabbering. i'm no expert at all

[Astroboy]

Originally Posted by CajunFRS

I don't think we need anything to do with fa20club period.

Why do you say that?

[StormTrooper]

Do some searching on frs300's and Nelsmar' cars.

Search for Toni and Antonio brown.