Harrop TVS86 Owners Thread

[kuczynskika]

Originally Posted by G-Unit86

Count me as another proud owner of this kit. Just got it back for the guys out at Moto-East on Monday. The car feels great on pump gas haven't had a chance to try her out with E85.

Thanks to Phil for all your help.

added as well!

[The Racers Line]

Just a small, happy update. We got to take our Harrop Shop car out for its first shake down last weekend. Day 1 was a private track day with only 5-6 cars. The car did about 75 laps all day, on 91 and didn't skip a beat. Track temps were about 85-90 all day, and the car experienced ZERO heat issues. Something we were not use to with the previous SC setup.

Day 2, we were actually logging with a friend's borrowed AIM Solo DL(ours for this car hadn't arrived yet) so we only logged Engine Oil Temp and Coolant temp, as those were issues experienced last season. Day 2 was also Round 6 of our NorCal 86 Cup time trial series, so the car would actually be pushed a little harder. We decided to run an e50 mix of ethanol and 91, boosting the power significantly. The car is running the Delicious FNG Harrop Tune, optimized by @Zach@delicioustuning

Peak oil temps were only 210F with peak engine coolant temps at 200, both temps stayed rock solid for a 20 min session. Our setup is using the OTS Harrop Oil Cooler, and Stock Radiator and a Varis vented hood, along with some cheap sheet metal ducting. Track temps were @ 90F.

On a plus side, this car took 1st in the super modified class!

Hope to be back next month with some actual hard data. Intake temps, coolant, and oil temps for the whole session, etc. We did not experience any heat soak power wise, and the car felt just as strong at the beginning ging of the session as it did at the end. In fact, after a hard session, you could pop the hood and rest your hands on the SC with no discomfort. Needless to say, we are VERY happy with the Harrop kit, and look forward to many more hours testing on street/track. After all, this car drove the 2 hours too and from the track at well!

Thanks!
Neal@theracersline

[Irace86.2.0]

This is all great but useless without CARB. Omg it has been forever.

[The Racers Line]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

This is all great but useless without CARB. Omg it has been forever.

I wouldn't say it's useless. Even the 2013 cars are not due for smog yet. Just like people who were worried about Edelbrock getting CARB cert. for no reason.(when Edelbrock has attained CARB cert for every single system they put out) These are large companies, that have plenty of experience getting the certification, the line to get this done however, is long and takes time and money. It WILL happen.

[Bfranklyn86]

Guys, could I just take a quick poll of what oil coolers people are running with this kit, and if there have been any particular good/bad experiences with them.

I need to get one sorted for my car and would need a thermostatically controlled set up. Currently tempted by the mishimoto one.

[Carlos_M]

Anyone run an aftermarket/custom intake setup? I think I saw Harrop with a prototype upgrade one but it may have been just for testing.

[Wise]

Anyone running this kit on their daily driver? Want to know if there are any reliability issues from running the 95 or 90mm pulley on daily.

My car is a weekend car, but it could easily become an every day car depending on my job.

[johan]

Originally Posted by Carlos_M

Anyone run an aftermarket/custom intake setup? I think I saw Harrop with a prototype upgrade one but it may have been just for testing.

Harrop's intake required deleting the AC as it also included a larger throttle body. I've considered making a custom one, but honestly, the car makes enough power - it doesn't need more. It'd be purely for sound - and I'm just not motivated enough to follow through with it.

Originally Posted by Wise

Anyone running this kit on their daily driver? Want to know if there are any reliability issues from running the 95 or 90mm pulley on daily.

My car is a weekend car, but it could easily become an every day car depending on my job.

The stock pulley is 95, so that's a no. I'm running 85 on mine and have had it on the track twice with nothing more than an oil cooler and a good tune. It hasn't given me any problems - I don't daily it though.

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by Wise

Anyone running this kit on their daily driver? Want to know if there are any reliability issues from running the 95 or 90mm pulley on daily.

My car is a weekend car, but it could easily become an every day car depending on my job.

I've daily'd mine for a year now, with some track stuff, 95mm pulley. No issues really.

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by johan

Harrop's intake required deleting the AC as it also included a larger throttle body. I've considered making a custom one, but honestly, the car makes enough power - it doesn't need more. It'd be purely for sound - and I'm just not motivated enough to follow through with it.



The stock pulley is 95, so that's a no. I'm running 85 on mine and have had it on the track twice with nothing more than an oil cooler and a good tune. It hasn't given me any problems - I don't daily it though.

I actually looked in to getting a larger throttle body as a way of increasing boost without putting extra parasitic load on the engine. Would any larger throttle body require an AC delete?

For the record, I asked my tuner about a drop in pulley size but he didn't want to (rod risk) and told me to do the manifold instead.

[johan]

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86

I actually looked in to getting a larger throttle body as a way of increasing boost without putting extra parasitic load on the engine. Would any larger throttle body require an AC delete?

For the record, I asked my tuner about a drop in pulley size but he didn't want to (rod risk) and told me to do the manifold instead.

You might be able to get a few mm larger, but it will be tight. I won't deny, the intake side is the easiest way to make power on a PD blower if you have the space to open it up. Unfortunately, the packaging here makes it difficult.

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by johan

You might be able to get a few mm larger, but it will be tight. I won't deny, the intake side is the easiest way to make power on a PD blower if you have the space to open it up. Unfortunately, the packaging here makes it difficult.

I've been looking at the grams 72mm throttle body which supposedly flows 48% more air than the stock 65mm one. Is the issue that the harrop kit wouldn't be compatible with this kind of thing because space is reduced vs stock?

I guess the other issue is there is no telling how much boost this would create until the car goes on the dyno - could be an unsafe amount. At least with dropping the pulley you know each size you go down roughly how much boost it will make.

[CxG]

Originally Posted by johan

You might be able to get a few mm larger, but it will be tight. I won't deny, the intake side is the easiest way to make power on a PD blower if you have the space to open it up. Unfortunately, the packaging here makes it difficult.

wait so the power on this unit is restricted by the intake which can't be larger without AC removal? Do you know what the limits are on the stock intake set up?

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by CxG

wait so the power on this unit is restricted by the intake which can't be larger without AC removal? Do you know what the limits are on the stock intake set up?

Well, even with stock TB you can get 380whp out of it. But if the 72mm throttle body does fit then that is supposedly 48% more airflow, so it doesn't have to much bigger than stock. I think that with a larger throttle body (not sure if AC was deleted or not) harrop got around 420 wheel.