Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 175 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

JCasteli · 07-26-2013, 03:08 PM

Is the issue still present on new production vehicles, or has it been resolved in production?

I know it's a noise only issue, but it's not something you would ever want your sports car to sound like. It's not acceptable.

This time the Dealer said they will contact Toyota directly tomorrow. The Dealer acts blind to the issue. I honestly don't know if they (Holman Toyota, NJ) service enough to be aware of the known issue, or they are just trying to deal with the issue as best they can in terms of customer service since ultimately there exists no fix.

zdr93523 · 07-26-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jvalich

Mine has been chirping, just at 12k now on my 4 month old BRZ. Second oil change and new fuel pump scheduled for July 31. I'll see how long the crickets stay away. I have noticed they are absent, loud or whispering but no correlation yet on any variable.

12,000 miles in 4 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, back on topic.

nunonuna · 07-26-2013, 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=JCasteli;1098453]Is the issue still present on new production vehicles, or has it been resolved in production?

Mine was built in april 13. Yup it chirps and idle dips too.

mla163 · 07-26-2013, 04:53 PM

I'm getting used to it.

Still, it is kind of dumb. I'm waiting for a real fix before I get it replaced again.

Endless Mike · 07-26-2013, 05:12 PM

I took my car in for its first service today and also to get the crickets checked out. They confirmed the problem but said Toyota won't replace them at this point since they don't have a working fix yet. Has anyone else heard this?

ohnoimcaught · 07-26-2013, 05:28 PM

I guess working for a dealer I see another side of it. I own one as well, and our master tech and I looked at it and he said the parts are identical. We've decided not to replace it until they have an actual fix. You guys are just wasting your time and the dealerships time doing this. Pump #4, seriously? Why would you do that.

Sigh-on-Rice · 07-26-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ohnoimcaught

I guess working for a dealer I see another side of it. I own one as well, and our master tech and I looked at it and he said the parts are identical. We've decided not to replace it until they have an actual fix. You guys are just wasting your time and the dealerships time doing this. Pump #4, seriously? Why would you do that.

Parts or part numbers?

sierra · 07-26-2013, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endless Mike

I took my car in for its first service today and also to get the crickets checked out. They confirmed the problem but said Toyota won't replace them at this point since they don't have a working fix yet. Has anyone else heard this?

That's what they were saying over a year ago or it's normal, depending on the official line at the time.

shellslinger · 07-27-2013, 02:04 AM

I'm getting my new fuel pump after talking to the service advisor yesterday.

azburnin · 07-27-2013, 11:07 AM

Does this chirping inhibit selling the vehicle as of now, by all means yes. Is it an embarrassment, of course.

Is there a possible fail of this fuel pump down the road? Like someone else said and 50-100k down the road the noise proves to a complete fail of the fuel system.

Then a few years down the line people are kicking themselves in the ass because they don't want to waist their time with arbitration.

It's largely about being royally upset that I have almost payed this entire vehicle off, yet because of both, idle dip, and the high fuel pressure pump chirp, and the complete fail from toyota to have it fixed warrants my personal arbitration. Will anything positive come from this I hope so, as I hope for everyone else.

AR35 · 07-27-2013, 11:54 AM

Right now, yea its just a little noise that's annoying. But who knows whats actually going on and 100% why the noise is there. BUT the stuff we DO know is the noise shouldn't be there and its annoying. So being the noise shouldnt be there im inclined to think somthing major is happening and it will effect me down the road.

You guys can wait around for a fix that may never come but i would like to act now so i am protected under warranty and the lemon law

Fett4Real · 07-27-2013, 05:42 PM

378 miles and the chirp is back

azburnin · 07-27-2013, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR35

Right now, yea its just a little noise that's annoying. But who knows whats actually going on and 100% why the noise is there. BUT the stuff we DO know is the noise shouldn't be there and its annoying. So being the noise shouldnt be there im inclined to think somthing major is happening and it will effect me down the road.

You guys can wait around for a fix that may never come but i would like to act now so i am protected under warranty and the lemon law

Exactly

JCasteli · 07-28-2013, 06:30 PM

Dealer explained that Toyota USA won't replace the pump anymore since inevitably it won't fix the problem. Dealer speaking on behalf of Toyota USA Service & Parts rep explained that Toyota is working on a new part that is expected in 60-days.

I won't wait 60-days for a new part when I drive ~500 miles per week. Under the grounds that the vehicle is not operating as purchased I have opened a case with Toyota USA and will request a buyback or trade assist into a new vehicle if they can guarantee me the part is no longer a problem in the new vehicle.

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07-26-2013, 03:08 PM	#2437
JCasteli Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Black FR-S Location: New Jersey Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is the issue still present on new production vehicles, or has it been resolved in production? I know it's a noise only issue, but it's not something you would ever want your sports car to sound like. It's not acceptable. This time the Dealer said they will contact Toyota directly tomorrow. The Dealer acts blind to the issue. I honestly don't know if they (Holman Toyota, NJ) service enough to be aware of the known issue, or they are just trying to deal with the issue as best they can in terms of customer service since ultimately there exists no fix.

07-26-2013, 04:53 PM	#2440
mla163 Overthinking it Join Date: May 2012 Drives: BRZ in CS Location: DC Posts: 271 Thanks: 27 Thanked 81 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm getting used to it. Still, it is kind of dumb. I'm waiting for a real fix before I get it replaced again.

07-26-2013, 05:12 PM	#2441
Endless Mike Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FR-S Location: DC Posts: 70 Thanks: 14 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I took my car in for its first service today and also to get the crickets checked out. They confirmed the problem but said Toyota won't replace them at this point since they don't have a working fix yet. Has anyone else heard this?

07-27-2013, 02:04 AM	#2445
shellslinger Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Whiteout FRS Location: DFW, TX Posts: 597 Thanks: 210 Thanked 310 Times in 186 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'm getting my new fuel pump after talking to the service advisor yesterday.

07-27-2013, 11:07 AM	#2446
azburnin Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: U.S Posts: 28 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Does this chirping inhibit selling the vehicle as of now, by all means yes. Is it an embarrassment, of course. Is there a possible fail of this fuel pump down the road? Like someone else said and 50-100k down the road the noise proves to a complete fail of the fuel system. Then a few years down the line people are kicking themselves in the ass because they don't want to waist their time with arbitration. It's largely about being royally upset that I have almost payed this entire vehicle off, yet because of both, idle dip, and the high fuel pressure pump chirp, and the complete fail from toyota to have it fixed warrants my personal arbitration. Will anything positive come from this I hope so, as I hope for everyone else.

07-27-2013, 11:54 AM	#2447
AR35 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: none Location: Savannah,GA Posts: 113 Thanks: 19 Thanked 21 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Right now, yea its just a little noise that's annoying. But who knows whats actually going on and 100% why the noise is there. BUT the stuff we DO know is the noise shouldn't be there and its annoying. So being the noise shouldnt be there im inclined to think somthing major is happening and it will effect me down the road. You guys can wait around for a fix that may never come but i would like to act now so i am protected under warranty and the lemon law

07-27-2013, 05:42 PM	#2448
Fett4Real AKA Mugen Dom Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2007 FJ Voodoo Blue Location: Hill AFB UT Posts: 957 Thanks: 125 Thanked 337 Times in 239 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	378 miles and the chirp is back

07-28-2013, 06:30 PM	#2450
JCasteli Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Black FR-S Location: New Jersey Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dealer explained that Toyota USA won't replace the pump anymore since inevitably it won't fix the problem. Dealer speaking on behalf of Toyota USA Service & Parts rep explained that Toyota is working on a new part that is expected in 60-days. I won't wait 60-days for a new part when I drive ~500 miles per week. Under the grounds that the vehicle is not operating as purchased I have opened a case with Toyota USA and will request a buyback or trade assist into a new vehicle if they can guarantee me the part is no longer a problem in the new vehicle.

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