2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[Mr.Impreza]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well Imp you would have a point if Toyota only slapped a badge overtop of the Scion one but the die hard anti Scion crowd actually swapped airbags so that puts the price back up again.

Not that it really matters since anybody using badge change to justify the increase misses the point that paying that much more before was all on them and did not increase the value of an FRS by one cent.

I don't think people do it to increase the price of the car.

Anyways back to topic,

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

I don't think people do it to increase the price of the car.

Anyways back to topic,

Oh I didn't think they did. The point of why it was brought up was simply that some people were paying the equivalent of the new, much higher price just to have it badged what is will be now.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

...You could also look at the '16 BRZ vs. '17 BRZ MSRP's (Premium), for what is essentially the same car as the FR-S/86 respectively. The BRZ's went up exactly $100, or 0.004%.
2016 - $25,395
2017 - $25,495

Between the approx. $800 premium for the Toyota over the "Premium" BRZ and the questionable front-end restyling on the GT86 refresh (trying to be charitable here), here's a fairly safe call: going forward, the sales ratio between the two is going to skew heavily towards the Subaru relative to past years (assuming production follows demand).

[FX86]

Price went up for the 2017 86: $27,120 for a manual-equipped model, an increase of $950 compared to the 2016 FR-S. Getting into a Toyota 86 with an automatic transmission will cost $27,840.

BRZ listed at $25,495..BRZ FTW!!!

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech

here's a fairly safe call: going forward, the sales ratio between the two is going to skew heavily towards the Subaru relative to past years (assuming production follows demand).

I think you underestimate the power of a Toyota badge.

[chaoskaze]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

What's a full badge swap cost? Including JDM airbag

All badge, drl, fog, airbag. You are looking @ 1500. LoL


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[chaoskaze]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

Not really,

Keep in mind these are CDN prices.

Toyota Front + Rear badge $40.00
86 Steering Wheel Emblem $60.00
Toyota Wheel Center Caps $100.00
Removal of Scion logo from the Audio Deck $0.00

$200.00CDN Total for me.

I think the 86 steering wheel emblem looks superb. I would never pay $500.00+ for the authentic one. Way too much money when you can have this for much less and still look good

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What ever you wanna say but that's ugly...Unless tag on ghetto look is totally your vibe.


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[Mr.Impreza]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

What ever you wanna say but that's ugly...Unless tag on ghetto look is totally your vibe.


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I like it and think it looks awesome and is a great alternative ^__~

I see many things I don't like on this forum in regards to what people do to these cars, but I don't go around calling things they like "ugly and ghetto"...really a asshole move on you part.

Just say you don't like it...why be such a jerk about it?

Honestly, it's why I barely post here anymore...constant hate and shit talking.

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Reminds me, when you asked for me to make a cabin video of the exhaust, I took the time and made the video for you and this is how you thank me later ^__~

[zc06_kisstherain]

yeah price went up for like $950 on 86 lol
https://www.yahoo.com/news/2017-toyo...180000966.html

i would get BRZ!

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech

Between the approx. $800 premium for the Toyota over the "Premium" BRZ and the questionable front-end restyling on the GT86 refresh (trying to be charitable here), here's a fairly safe call: going forward, the sales ratio between the two is going to skew heavily towards the Subaru relative to past years (assuming production follows demand).

I dunno, I'm not bias towards any of the two brands. From Facia aside...But for that 800$ you get Nicer Seats and a better interior trim than the premium(I don't have full data on the premium atm, it seems that it's the exact same interior as the out going 16, plastic dash piece, cloth seats) you also get a rear diffuser on the 86 as well. That's seems pretty fair for 800$. Also once things are said and done if you haggle and talk prices, and Toyota rebates and other things it will probably be close to each other on the out the door part.

I also have doubts at Subaru's starlink and stereo system in the Premium BRZ, the limited has more items iirc. Compared to Toyota Pioneer system they put in the 86 and Scion cars. Like it or not Scion did invest a lot of money to give you a good stereo system in their cars. And this unit is the improved unit over the 2016, it should also have been updated for CarPlay and Android auto. When it's looked at this way. It's worth that 800$.

Even if it's 950$ I still think it's worth it on many levels.

Maybe....

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Zaku

I dunno, I'm not bias towards any of the two brands. From Facia aside...But for that 800$ you get Nicer Seats and a better interior trim than the premium(I don't have full data on the premium atm, it seems that it's the exact same interior as the out going 16, plastic dash piece, cloth seats) you also get a rear diffuser on the 86 as well. That's seems pretty fair for 800$. Also once things are said and done if you haggle and talk prices, and Toyota rebates and other things it will probably be close to each other on the out the door part.

I also have doubts at Subaru's starlink and stereo system in the Premium BRZ, the limited has more items iirc. Compared to Toyota Pioneer system they put in the 86 and Scion cars. Like it or not Scion did invest a lot of money to give you a good stereo system in their cars. And this unit is the improved unit over the 2016, it should also have been updated for CarPlay and Android auto. When it's looked at this way. It's worth that 800$.

Even if it's 950$ I still think it's worth it on many levels.

Maybe....

The base 86 seats are nicer than the FRS base seats, but I don't think there is any difference in quality/material between the 86 seats and the BRZ Premium. The new 86 seats look almost identical to the seats offered in the RS 1.0.


I also thought the spoiler was going to be standard with all trims of BRZ now?


Am I mistaken?

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

I like it and think it looks awesome and is a great alternative ^__~

I see many things I don't like on this forum in regards to what people do to these cars, but I don't go around calling things they like "ugly and ghetto"...really a asshole move on you part.

Just say you don't like it...why be such a jerk about it?

Honestly, it's why I barely post here anymore...constant hate and shit talking.

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Reminds me, when you asked for me to make a cabin video of the exhaust, I took the time and made the video for you and this is how you thank me later ^__~

+1 to this

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

The base 86 seats are nicer than the FRS base seats, but I don't think there is any difference in quality/material between the 86 seats and the BRZ Premium. The new 86 seats look almost identical to the seats offered in the RS 1.0.


I also thought the spoiler was going to be standard with all trims of BRZ now?


Am I mistaken?

Sir you are right on the money it's very similar seats to the RS1 the parts are alittle different in the new 86 via bits of Alcantra on the seats etc.

No solid data on that spoiler on all BRZ

Nice one

[Shinigami301]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

What ever you wanna say but that's ugly...Unless tag on ghetto look is totally your vibe.

Your insults are way out of line on this.