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10-15-2021, 06:11 PM | #2437 | |
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Between a traditional automatic and a DCT Is it just the shift speed? My X1's 8speed tranny shifts fast.....I cant imagine it shifting any faster than it to make a difference. the only thing i can really think of that would be "better" is if the shifts were "smoother", its already pretty fast and smooth as is. And paddle response....the only thing that matters to me is if it actually response immediately to a click, which mine does if the car is in sport mode and driven hard. Its slow and kind of laggy when driven leisurely. I found that behavior the same in the FRS auto i test drove along time ago. Ive heard DCT's "feels" like a manual but it never did to me...just felt like an automatic with a bit more herky jerkiness to it when accelerating from a stop. |
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I enjoyed the ZF8 transmission in the GR Supra. It was instant and quick both up and down the gears. Don't know how to explain but even when I wasn't using the paddle shifters, there was a crisp sensation when it shifted especially under hard acceleration. It was very tactile.
I can't say for sure it beats using a clutch though and feeling the shifter go into gear, especially a mechanical one like the twins. A great auto transmission is great for performance and no matter which way you look at it, having a great performing vehicle is pretty enjoyable... I've driven plenty of 86's in Auto. They shift quickly up and down too. It's not an instant feeling like the ZF8 and it's not as tactile. But if you haven't driven any other great-performing autos, the 86's auto transmission is pretty good.
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Worth noting the one in the ND2 Miata is equally as meh. Not a huge deal, since you really shouldn't be getting the AT in these vehicles unless you have a health issue or you hate having fun.
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10-16-2021, 10:47 AM | #2440 | |
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10-16-2021, 10:55 AM | #2441 |
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A health issue or hate to have fun in AT? Omg ..
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A lot of journalists talk about that transmission like it is 2nd only to Porsche's PDK. Which makes sense considering it is a more premium transmission and is found in nearly everything over $40K. For reference - PDK Can't find a comparable ZF clip. But FRS for comparo... not that bad considering the price. |
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I'll take the sub 30K car with the 3 millisecond delay, thank you
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The Supra with the ZF can crack off 8 to 3 downshifts immediately and can also drop gears as fast as you can click the paddles even into first gear for the most part. I hate when I try to downshift an automatic and it feels super mushy and/or prevents downshifting. |
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10-17-2021, 05:20 AM | #2445 | |
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I'll have to test drive a Supra someday, if I can get in the cabin lol |
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That is one major shortcoming. It’s pretty level with a Camaro in terms of submarine/gunslot feel lol. Luckily it’s not a big car.
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I mean, I get it, if you are a "MT or die" type it won't matter what the AT does, it won't satisfy you. That's OK. But really, particularly for a sub-30K car (or sub $5,000 car in my case) it's pretty damn good.
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See, this is the thing, I jump between a MT JUKE Nismo RS (Don't laugh it's a lot of fun ) and the AT FR-S all the time and still enjoy the paddles. |
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