STX Rules and Setup Questions

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by BRZHarley

On the topic of the Whiteline bushings and endlinks...

I recently installed a Whiteline 20mm bar with the new greaseless bushing, I decided to try them out and they work great! Greasing them isn't going hurt to anything either...

The clunky noise on the other hand drove me nuts for a week until I determine the cause... The Whiteline bar comes with a nice thick epoxy coating, I found that the coating was preventing a good tightening of the end link to bar connection. The end link to strut was just fine... My resolution was to use an abrasive pad on my air grinder to remove the excess coating around the hole on the bar, took about 5 minutes per side. Once my sons and I cleaned up the bar and retorqued the end end link the clunking was gone and hasn't come back!

Good luck,

Ed

Did you actually torque to spec or just nice and tight? If to spec what was it?

[BRZHarley]

Flinch

The first time I did it to spec.... Normally would not have as 40 years of experience spinning wrenches suggested otherwise...

The next two attempts were Ball Busting tight... They failed as well until the expoxy was removed on the finial attempt.... ��

Ed

[smg1138]

What are you guys using for camber plates? I've been using the stock tophats on my Tarmac 2's, but think it's time to get some good plates soon. I've heard good things about Raceseng, but they're so damn expensive. Ideally, I'd like something with adjustable caster that doesn't raise the ride height.

[AFRichZC6]

Originally Posted by smg1138

What are you guys using for camber plates? I've been using the stock tophats on my Tarmac 2's, but think it's time to get some good plates soon. I've heard good things about Raceseng, but they're so damn expensive. Ideally, I'd like something with adjustable caster that doesn't raise the ride height.

I'm actually in the market for camber plates as well. I saw you were looking for the HVT plates in another post.

This is the only place I found that still has HVT plates:
http://www.brz-parts.com/hvt-brz-camberplate.html

Also look into the Ground Control camber plates.

I'm not too worried about raising the ride height too much so I'm considering the ones from Vorshlag.

[bslate3]

The Vorshlag camber plates are engineered well with extra positive caster built in. I had them on my WRX and loved them. I'll get some for my BRZ when I can afford to get some coilovers.

[redlined600]

I really like the vorschlag camber plates as well. Racecomp claims there is plenty of travel but I have yet to verify I'm getting 100% of whats available. I have t2s s well, 450lb springs in front.

[Silver Ignition]

I have the Vorschlag plates...nice quality, huge range of adjustment, upper uniball mounts appear to be very high quality

[smg1138]

Do the Vorshlag plates reduce suspension travel? And if so, by how much?

[jbailey8748]

Can a camber plate reduce travel? Is that a thing?

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[smg1138]

From my understanding, most camber plates that mount from underneath raise ride height some. How much though, I'm not really sure.

[e1_griego]

IMO, the trick with camber plates is making sure they come with that radial bearing in the upper spring perch so that the spring can rotate independently of the shaft of the shock.

The Voshlag and Raceceng both have that, and GC plates have their own method of dealing with that though I'm not sure for which spring diameters.

[redlined600]

Originally Posted by jbailey8748

Can a camber plate reduce travel? Is that a thing?

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Technically, no. But they can move the mounting point which trades bump travel for droop travel. Since most are lowering the car they give up even more bump travel. That's when it becomes a problem. This is all dependant on many variables, shock body length , ride height, spring rate, bumpstop length, camber plate mounting height is just one small piece of a larger puzzle.

[jbailey8748]

Originally Posted by redlined600

Technically, no. But they can move the mounting point which trades bump travel for droop travel. Since most are lowering the car they give up even more bump travel. That's when it becomes a problem. This is all dependant on many variables, shock body length , ride height, spring rate, bumpstop length, camber plate mounting height is just one small piece of a larger puzzle.

Good answer. +++

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[xwd]

All things being equal with spring perch height, the traditional plates that go under the shock tower and attach the top of the shock there which ends up raising the car. So you have to lower the spring perches to get back to the lowered height, which is reducing travel. The Vorschlag are pretty traditional plates so they fall in that category.

Other plates like the HVT and those that come with the KW Clubsports mount the top of the shock above the tower so they don't raise the car at all. The Raceseng plates are domed a bit so they don't raise it much. Ground Control really is doing the same thing, just above the tower. I've looked into building a plate to use with the GCs so you can lower the car by raising the shock mounting even higher without reducing travel.