Toyota 86 / Scion FR-S Convertible Roadster confirmed (with photos from Long Beach)

[Grateful Dave]

It probably won't come out until at least until 2014. They still have to sell the coupe to make their money back.

[SUB-FT86]

That is one ugly ass roadster. If they made a roadster I can't see it being better than the current MX5 as it would weigh about 400-450 lbs to negate the 33 hp/11 tq difference. Also it wouldn't be more pratical and it would cost about 4k-5k more which with taxes would easily eclipse 30k. These are the reasons why I believe Toyota won't make this foolish move.

[FutureFT86]

DAMN! that is the UGLIEST roadster I have ever seen in my life.................The interior looks like a speed boat

[86'd]

The render is OK, but the one in real life is disgustingly horrible.

I never wanted a convertible but if the car does well, I'm sure you'll see a lot of them.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by 86'd

The render is OK, but the one in real life is disgustingly horrible.

I never wanted a convertible but if the car does well, I'm sure you'll see a lot of them.

I really don't think anyone that see's the "Speed Racer" car in person would have any thought that it was a serious prototype. It seemed pretty obvious to me it was a design exercise by someone given free reign to do what they wanted.

I made the comment it looked like something my buddies would have done with a cutting saw after too many beers.

[MarkRacerX]

The FRS Roadster in Long Beach, CA @ Formula Drift confirmed as was a " one off build for the Long Beach Grand Prix" event in a few weeks was all it is .

[Hachiroku]

Details on the build and pics:

Designed and built by Cartel Customs, lead by Jeremy Lookofsky, the Cartel Speedster takes the top clean off the FR-S, leaving in its place a low windshield, sloped side windows, and a double-bubble deck lid in classic speedster style.

The custom FR-S is also outfitted with a wide range of other mods, including: an upgraded clutch, exhaust, and suspension; Wilwood brakes; larger 18x8-inch front and 18x9.5-inch rear wheels wrapped in Toyo Proxes R888 tires; custom fenders and hood; a 61-inch carbon fiber wing; custom paint; and a fully custom interior.

[dominican]

Like someone else said, I'd rather have a 4 door FR-S. Even suicide doors would suffice! At this price, it's what I would need to justify it. if it were 3-4 grand cheaper, I could have lived with the 2 door. Convertible? There are only two convertibles I like, the original Miata, and the S2000.

[Levi]

How could I miss that? I want that fender without fake side vent.


Also, I like the CL rims and the inner door panel is nice for a race spec car.

[mandm177]

Just like everyone else, i don't like it all that much...

I will however take a set of the 86 door lock cap things!

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by mandm177

Just like everyone else, i don't like it all that much...

I will however take a set of the 86 door lock cap things!

About the only thing I really liked were the white on black Scion logos. I wonder if those are an avaiable part?

[Stigmaru]

Originally Posted by madfast

this story is jumping to conclusions. we've known for quite sometime that the chassis was designed so that it can be made into a convertible. that in no way means they are in the process of making one. thinking about it? planning? sure. did tada say outright they are making a convertible? nope. also there has to be a financial case to move forward , and imo there simply isnt. convertibles dont really sell well. 2 seat cars dont sell well.

if anything, the chassis may spawn a 2 seat HYBRID. we have seen the GRMN hybrids

but they were using a MR platform based off the MR2. MR would be hella cool, but why go there when you have a perfectly developed RWD chassis already? HSD on a FR platform? done! GS450h, LS600h, etc. to me it makes perfect sense. make a CRZ type car, except its unique in that its a convertible. it can compete with both the CRZ and next gen miata which is supposedly going back to being super small and super light, which means super weak engine as well. so a real sporty hybrid? it just may happen....

Subaru chief engineer explicitly said no convertible as it wasn't designed for it. Toyota chief engineer says convertible is a possible idea and will probably push for it if they see good sales numbers.

Subaru was the only one who cared about the engineering aspects since they were responsible for it. Toyota doesn't care as much as pushing for this car to be successful in every way. That includes coming out with a convertible that has weaker structural integrity just to satisfy aesthetic reasons.

[Brett]

Originally Posted by MarkRacerX

The FRS Roadster in Long Beach, CA @ Formula Drift confirmed as was a " one off build for the Long Beach Grand Prix" event in a few weeks was all it is .

Yes it sure was. I sat next to the guy who built it. He also built the iQ track support car with the tool drawers, tires, and jack.

[poormans_LFA]

that little IQ was cool, but this FR-S speedster deal....errrrrnot so much. the lines don't mix well w/ the custom fabrication, but whatever...it's just a one off. I gotta say though; the centralized analog cluster is sweet.