CSG and RCE tag-team suspension Q&A thread! Ask us anything!

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Originally Posted by was385

I had someone swear to me on a FB group that they decreased his times by 4 seconds on a 60-second autox course when compared to Konis.... so they must be f'ing amazing!

That is a HUGE difference! They must be good. They were on the lower side of the spectrum in terms of price ($900), but these must be the best bang for the buck.

Any other thoughts?

[was385]

Originally Posted by x1UP

That is a HUGE difference! They must be good. They were on the lower side of the spectrum in terms of price ($900), but these must be the best bang for the buck.

Any other thoughts?

Way too good. To be honest, that's all I've heard and it was total crap so I have nothing on these. I personally won't buy anything from that company after their roll cage fiasco but there are people that swear by them and I don't have any specific knowledge.

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Originally Posted by was385

Way too good. To be honest, that's all I've heard and it was total crap so I have nothing on these. I personally won't buy anything from that company after their roll cage fiasco but there are people that swear by them and I don't have any specific knowledge.

Interesting. Makes me wonder. I've also been looking at ARK's DT-P coilovers, although I haven't seen a single user on here that has used them...

I should also note that i'm only using coilovers for purely street/daily driving. Maybe some track time, but not in the near future.

I know I've been suggested to go springs, but i'd rather go coilovers.

[was385]

Originally Posted by x1UP

Interesting. Makes me wonder. I've also been looking at ARK's DT-P coilovers, although I haven't seen a single user on here that has used them...

I should also note that i'm only using coilovers for purely street/daily driving. Maybe some track time, but not in the near future.

I know I've been suggested to go springs, but i'd rather go coilovers.

Is height adjustability really important to you? It's near impossible to find an adjustable coilover setup that is going to tick all the boxes (quality damping, performance, well-made, performance, comfort) at the sub-$1000 level. I personally realized I didn't really care about height adjustability and didn't want to shell out the money for a real quality adjustable set and ended up with Bilsteins and springs. Couldn't be happier, but if fine tuning the height is important, that route would not be for you.

[gramicci101]

There are coilovers in the same price range that have much more reliable names and more reviews; I'd probably look at them first. For instance, Bilstein's B14 is $1099. If you want to go super low, Stance and BC Extreme Lows are about the same price.

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Originally Posted by was385

Is height adjustability really important to you? It's near impossible to find an adjustable coilover setup that is going to tick all the boxes (quality damping, performance, well-made, performance, comfort) at the sub-$1000 level. I personally realized I didn't really care about height adjustability and didn't want to shell out the money for a real quality adjustable set and ended up with Bilsteins and springs. Couldn't be happier, but if fine tuning the height is important, that route would not be for you.

I'm not looking to overhaul my ride height that much honestly. I'm just looking to lower it so it can be flush with the body, so maybe about at most, a 1" drop.

I mean, it's always to have the options at your hands, which is why i'm going for a coilover setup.

[srizzors25]

Originally Posted by was385

Is height adjustability really important to you? It's near impossible to find an adjustable coilover setup that is going to tick all the boxes (quality damping, performance, well-made, performance, comfort) at the sub-$1000 level. I personally realized I didn't really care about height adjustability and didn't want to shell out the money for a real quality adjustable set and ended up with Bilsteins and springs. Couldn't be happier, but if fine tuning the height is important, that route would not be for you.

It should help him a bit with the fact that he is going to primarily do street/daily driving with the car. This way you can kind of take a slight step back with performance as you will still want some comfort (I assume !)

This sounds very similar to the position I was in, wanted to be fairly low and the adjustment was somewhat important but for me I really wanted the extra wheel clearance up front that the springs can't quite do.

What about something like the ST coilovers or some Tein street coilovers? You don't need to be rocking 8k/6k spring rates if its a daily, in fact I definitely wouldn't recommend that would probably be a little harsh for around town.

I opted for the Tein Street Basis, which is like 6k/5k I believe with around 2" max drop. They are slightly stiffer feeling than stock but are relatively comfortable as I also just daily my car (tracked once!).

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Interesting! I'm really thinking about ARK's coilover set. I've been looking at that for the past two weeks and I'm almost ready to jump on it. But, i'm also trying to gauge some opinions on what and why you think a certain brand is better than the other.

I was looking at the TEIN and ISC, since I know a few people locally that have them on their car. So, it's a dilemma.

To your point @scrizzors25, it's mainly just a DD and I want a similar suspension to my 2015 stocks.

[srizzors25]

I couldn't speak for ARK's coilovers, I know people seem to like their exhaust systems but thats about all I know ha

It's tough we are lucky with these cars as there are ton of options. And it really depends on what each person uses them for in terms of how they like them. Like on my first car (wrx swapped rs) I had JIC coilovers and they were terrible on the road but on the track/autox that car was amazing. Same went for my 240, I had stance coils and I liked them. A bit stiff around town but when I took that thing sideways it was a blast, handled very well.

I like the spring rates I'm sitting at I've always had this problem about getting the best performance and not really thinking about the fact that 99% of the time I take this car to work ha. Just something worth considering. If you stick with the popular brands with good reps I don't think you can go wrong

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I'll definitely take a look. I'm weighing my options as I'm just looking for something better than stock suspension.

I have the 2015 model and I know they revised the suspension for the model year, but still, i'd like to change the suspension to my liking, so to speak. I love modding and this is just the latest part victim haha.

[ja1217]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Look at the specs on the spring via Hyperco's website and make sure they're total available travel is more than the amount of bump travel that you end up with (so that the spring doesn't fully bind before the shock). You'll probably be okay just going with minimal preload but it's good to check. It may take some trial and error.

- Andy

Alright, I finally got everything installed and aligned, but ran into a bit of a snag. With the stiffer springs I was only able to get -1.0 degree of camber in the rear with the ride height lowered as much as possible. I'm looking into using helper springs and lowering the preload and have asked Ohlins for any advice on how much adjustability I should have with the preload without running into any issues with the bump travel.

So, I guess my question is does anyone have an estimate for how much lower the rear of my car would need to be in order to get around -2 degrees of camber instead of the -1.0 it currently has?

[gramicci101]

Don't use lowering springs to adjust camber in the rear. Pick the ride height you want, get suspension to meet that goal. Then get a rear LCA and front camber bolts/plate to meet your camber needs. Just springs either won't give you enough camber, or won't give you even camber at both sides, unless you're very lucky.

[ja1217]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Don't use lowering springs to adjust camber in the rear. Pick the ride height you want, get suspension to meet that goal. Then get a rear LCA and front camber bolts/plate to meet your camber needs. Just springs either won't give you enough camber, or won't give you even camber at both sides, unless you're very lucky.

Forgot to mention that LCA's are a no-go as I don't have the points for them in NASA's TT system. My problem is that I moved to significantly stiffer springs (had the shocks revalved as well) that don't have as much natural drop as the ones that came with the default Ohlins kit.

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After much research, I think i'm just going to save up for Ohlins. Those are godly.