(GR86) Second Generation FR-S/BRZ insider info...

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Opinions will vary. Negative ones can't be expressed?
Be thankful it was released. It was in serious jeopardy.
It is heavier and will be more expensive.

Heavier.
More expensive.
Uglier.
Final edition.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

My old Honda fit had an center console armrest that sat a bit lower than the door armrest so it was super awkward to even place my arm on it...pretty much never used it as an armrest as it was too low.

The only car I've ever owned that had a perfect (for me) alignment between the driver door, the center console and my particular body part locations was the MK1 MR2. When I climbed into it, it was like I was in the captain's chair on the Enterprise. Everything just fell right where it should be.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Heavier.
More expensive.
Uglier.
Final edition.

Nihilistic old man!
Nobody wants to hear that. Only positive things are now permitted.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

That actually looks much nicer than the one in the Hakone. Mine is very pretty and all but I am afraid to actually rest my arm on it since the rails are very flimsy.
Looks like they may have moved the cup holders back a little which may make the contortionists happy but everybody else cramp up at the thought.

Yea, I like the "bomb bay" door configuration of the console. If someone made an aftermarket one for the FRS that worked that way I would buy it.

You are right though, those cupholders look useless for anyone in the front. I barely can use the front one now without wrenching my shoulder.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Nihilistic old man!
Nobody wants to hear that. Only positive things are now permitted.

It's sad because it's true.

[LimitedSlip]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

If you look at the video in post #2242 above there is a clear shot of the center console with the cubby, or cup holder) in front of the covered console that also has the current two cupholders in it.

Okay, I gotta have this console. Does anyone have the part numbers and will it fit in a 2017?

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

The only car I've ever owned that had a perfect (for me) alignment between the driver door, the center console and my particular body part locations was the MK1 MR2. When I climbed into it, it was like I was in the captain's chair on the Enterprise. Everything just fell right where it should be.

That is how I felt about my Datsun 280Z. The next closest is my current toy, the MR2 Spyder but it sits so low that is harder to get in and out of. Of course, I was 40 years younger when I had the Z.

[86league]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

YI barely can use the front one now without wrenching my shoulder.

Drive with the seat aaaaalllllll the way back. It helps

[Baldeagle]

The shape looks great to me. The rear end almost has a Supra-like muscularity. As TheDonEffect mentioned, the torque curve also appears flat. From peak TQ at 3,700 rpm (184 lbs-ft), it maintains 93% of that to 7,000 rpm (171 lbs-ft). I’m also happy to see a 7,500 rpm redline. Can’t wait to drive one.

[JD001]

I'm sorry guys, but it just looks awful.. What is the front fender doing? The car looks frumpy..

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Baldeagle

The shape looks great to me. The rear end almost has a Supra-like muscularity. As TheDonEffect mentioned, the torque curve also appears flat. From peak TQ at 3,700 rpm (184 lbs-ft), it maintains 93% of that to 7,000 rpm (171 lbs-ft). I’m also happy to see a 7,500 rpm redline. Can’t wait to drive one.

There is still a dip exactly where the old one was it just isn't as pronounced. Probably a 4% drop in torque for a 1/10th of a second instead of a 10% one.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by JD001

I'm sorry guys, but it just looks awful.. What is the front fender doing? The car looks frumpy..

Not sure that a car with rear wheel steering should have that much smoke in the curve.

[AxisPower]

Looks like d4s stays. Hopefully it'll be a simple enough swap.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not sure that a car with rear wheel steering should have that much smoke in the curve.

I can't handle the pervy grin from that front end.. Toyota needs to redeem this.