2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed!

[gymratter]

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...mparison.5122/

[BA9092]

Originally Posted by gymratter

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...mparison.5122/

Wow! I didn't think they'd sound different. I prefer the sound of the A90 to the A91. The burble, pops and bangs had become a MK5 signature.

[shiumai]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I’ve seen two. Both were hideous.

I like the front, I hate the back. It's bulbous. Even the C8 rear end is better, and it's not pretty.

[soundman98]

someone smeared lipstick all over that 2020!

[BA9092]

Originally Posted by shiumai

I like the front, I hate the back. It's bulbous. Even the C8 rear end is better, and it's not pretty.

I agree. The design is not for everyone. Ironically, most of the online reviews have preferred the back to the front.

I think the C8 looks like the Camaro from the back. They should've at least kept the center exhaust set-up!

Originally Posted by soundman98

someone smeared lipstick all over that 2020!

[shiumai]

Originally Posted by BA9092

I think the C8 looks like the Camaro from the back. They should've at least kept the center exhaust set-up!

Or round exhaust tips.

[PulsarBeeerz]

Originally Posted by Mike_ZN6

If the Supra 4 cylinder is only making 217hp/225tq there is no way the 2nd gen twin is going to get a turbo. Why would anyone buy a 4 cylinder Supra when you would get more power from an 86 for much less?

I completely agree. I would still love a 220hp D4S 2.4L but I really doubt that will happen.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Mike_ZN6

If the Supra 4 cylinder is only making 217hp/225tq there is no way the 2nd gen twin is going to get a turbo. Why would anyone buy a 4 cylinder Supra when you would get more power from an 86 for much less?

It really depends. If it was a new motor like the GR Yaris’ 3-cylinder turbo, but detuned, then a 1.6L turbo isn’t a threat. It is more likely we will see the same motor or a 2.4L NA.

Let’s be real about the dyno numbers. If the 2.0T and 3.0T are not underrated like before then will that really matter much for tuning or anything? Shouldn’t that just mean that a tune will do that much more in terms of gains?

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I have no doubt the 4 cylinder Supra sold in the US will have a (conventional) LSD as standard equipment.

Which for a well balanced car is all you really need. Plus it's lighter than an electronic active LSD.

*raises hand*
I don't understand this.
I thought electronic "diffs" used the rear brakes. Cars already have rear brakes. How can a mechanical lsd, which has more parts than a conventional diff, be lighter than an electronic diff?

[DM7]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

*raises hand*
I don't understand this.
I thought electronic "diffs" used the rear brakes. Cars already have rear brakes. How can a mechanical lsd, which has more parts than a conventional diff, be lighter than an electronic diff?

Electronic limited slip differentials are computer controlled variable slip differentials. It can theoretically go from completely open to completely locked as needed. It varies the speed difference between the wheels based on sensor data from the car. Compared to conventional limited slip differentials; electronic limited slip differentials have computers, solenoids, hydraulic components and cooling systems.

Brake vectoring systems use the brakes to limit the speed difference between wheels.

Torque vectoring systems can feature one or both systems mentioned above.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

*raises hand*
I don't understand this.
I thought electronic "diffs" used the rear brakes. Cars already have rear brakes. How can a mechanical lsd, which has more parts than a conventional diff, be lighter than an electronic diff?

https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...ferential.html

10kg heavier

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Red-86

Do people think the 2.0 Supra will sell in places like the US?

Originally Posted by BA9092

Interesting.

Considering only 20% projection for the 2.0 vs 80% for the 3.0, that sounds pretty dismal.

this isn't fool poof, but assuming the sales trend continue Toyota is looking to sale around 4000 units. 20% would be 800 units.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toy...-figures.2061/

[gymratter]

[jflogerzi]

The us is getting the higher output 4pot and snail. It's the same as the lower 4pot on the z4.

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