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Supra either on the 3.0 lt or the 2.0 lt version is too heavy ...
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They don't need two homologation cars to do rally racing, and the GR Yaris is probably better anyways, so I don't see a Celica GT4 successor. RWD>AWD for weight, fun. AWD<RWD off the line and off road. I really hope it isn't AWD. I wouldn't mind the 3 cylinder turbo, but I'm sure it'll be another 4-cylinder NA 2.0-2.4L boxer under the hood.
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I don't think any of those have even been rumors, that's literally a WRX. There can only be one, this isn't the 90s with model overlap.
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The WRX already has AWD and with the 2.0 Supra, the mid-200-hp turbo 4 cylinder is also covered. I don't see how Subaru or Toyota would do either option on the next gen "twin"...if there even is one.
Granted we've all seen and heard news from both Subaru and Toyota talking about the next gen 86 and BRZ. But that could easily sway to the demise of the model, especially considering how the automotive industry's facing this new economical decline. The WRX already is the dominant high-performance variant in the Subaru lineup. The Supra is the latest and greatest sports car for Toyota. Is it too soon to "drive the nail in the coffin" of the BRZ/86? Time will tell. But with the new 2.0 Supra, I hardly find a reason for yet another in a world where sports coupes and sports cars are a risky and costly campaign for most automotive companies. |
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First, the rumors of an upcoming U.S. spec Corolla Hot Hatch GR are very firm, confirmed in another forum by an engineer working on the project. Where would a new 86 fit in to the pricing matrix? Then we have the new TMNA CEO, Japan expat Ogawa, who has no prior retail field experience and seems positioned to cut costs after the former CEO, dealer favorite American Lentz, acquired massive long term debt with North American plants and HQ relocation to Plano. I'm thinking Ogawa will be taking a chainsaw to the balance sheet given what's happening to the income statement this year. This is all complete speculation but as we saw with the Scion brand, Toyota will cut their losses as needed. The biggest reason Toyota would proceed with a new 86 IMO would be to support JDM bro Subaru during this auto industry crisis where standing by while one of their own fails would be bad form in the homeland. |
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https://newsroom.toyota.eu/2020-toyota-gr-supra-20-dpl/
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If there is no next gen 86, I don’t know what I’ll ‘upgrade’ to from my 2015 twin. I was planning on the next gen... and hoping the rumour of the 2.4 turbo was true. It would be the perfect power and torque for the 86, basically making it an FR Cayman for beer money. Another NA, asthmatic, torque-less engine isn’t going to cut it today... performance expectations have moved on significantly from 2012, when the twins first came out. Regular non-sport ‘economy’ family hatchbacks give you 200HP and torque for days from turbo engines now. The 2.0 Supra is no real 86 replacement. Too fat, far too expensive. The twins fill a real niche in the lineup... I really hope they don’t get killed off. |
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Do people think the 2.0 Supra will sell in places like the US? We can’t even get it here in Australia, no business case for it. I think they’ve missed a real opportunity with it. The B48 puts out 300HP in the JCWs and M135i Xdrive. Should be doing that in the Supra too. Or maybe that is saved for the 2022!
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Have you driven one already or just looked at numbers? The few reviews I've seen so far disagree completely. The "255hp" is closer to 280-290hp and thats before a 30hp/60ft+ warranty retaining Dinatronics tune. BMW often underrates their engine outputs as you know anyway. The true 50/50 weight distribution seems to have done the chassis a world of good according to those who have driven at least. |
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I might buy one... I'm more interested in the 2.0 than the 3.0.
They will certainly be able to sell more Supras with the minimum entry price significantly lowered. And it can't be all *that* much trouble for them to offer it as the engine has already been developed for the convertible version of the car... Seems like a no-brainer to me, I'm pretty psyched that they're bringing it to the U.S. after all. |
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There is no way it produces mid 200 hp, it does 0-60 in 4.9s
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