Toyota FT-86 II Concept to be unveiled at Geneva!!!

[ichitaka05]

for the all the members that can't read Japanese, I just summarized it for ya.
p.s.
cyde01, if I made any mistake correct it for me

• Wheels might change to 16" & 17" instead of 18's.
• 17's gonna have 215/45R17
• 16's will have 205/55R16.
• 16's for the base model.
• Base model price is estimating around ￥2,300,000
• Main Grade (Grand Touring ver I guess) is estimating ￥2,500,000
• G's FT86 is possibly looking around ￥3,000,000
• Length: 4160mm (163.8")
• Width: 1760mm (69.3")
• Height: 1260mm (49.6")
• 200PS/7000rpm w 21kg/4500rpm (197hp/151tq)
• Base chassis was Impreza instead of Legacy ()
• Using/modding new Subaru's FB20 engine
• Engine bore/stroke: 84・0mm/90・0mm
• Transmission: Aisen AY6 6sp MT & AT
• 0~100km 7.7sec
• 50mm shorter than impreza w engine been pushed back 200mm
• They're estimating Final ver design will be release on Dec TMS
• Release around March of next yr

Hope that help out.

[WhatIs86For]

well well well.. I didnt search this forum for a while and now I enter this thread and look what i found.. 7.7 second till it reach what? 100 KM?? i was hopping 200KM or little less..

Now toyota I have a couple of questions for you would you mind? thanks
where is the advantage of DI?? you guys were barging the whole year about DI.. fail
where is the advantage of "DUAL" toyota VVTI-L... fail
where is the advantage of 4line engine??

I hope that this magazine is made from a kid who dont have anything else to do.. because if this was true then this car fail no offence.. 7.7 LOL altima is faster than that..

[Matador]

Autoblog has picked up the Scion FT-S story. ROFLMFAO.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by WhatIs86For

well well well.. I didnt search this forum for a while and now I enter this thread and look what i found.. 7.7 second till it reach what? 100 KM?? i was hopping 200KM or little less..

Now toyota I have a couple of questions for you would you mind? thanks
where is the advantage of DI?? you guys were barging the whole year about DI.. fail
where is the advantage of "DUAL" toyota VVTI-L... fail
where is the advantage of 4line engine??

I hope that this magazine is made from a kid who dont have anything else to do.. because if this was true then this car fail no offence.. 7.7 LOL altima is faster than that..

Hm... maybe you need where's that 7.7sec stands in the current 2L NA FR.
2L Miata runs 0~100km in 7.9sec
2L BMW 120i coupe runs 0~100km in 7.8 sec
FT86 is 7.7secs.... yeah, 10k~15k cheaper than BMW 120i and still 0.2sec faster.

Also base engine FB20 is pushing 148ps (145hp) and they changed that to 200PS (197hp). That's pretty good improvement.

Again, if you want high hp/tq car then, you're looking at wrong car. Look into 370z, Genesis, Mustang, Camaro or whatever v engine cars. This car isn't no stock high hp/tq car.

edit: Also you're comparing this w Altima? Altima that has 3.5L v6 engine? You must be joking! If you look at hp/L ratio Altima is looking at 73.7hp per liter vs FT86 is 98.5hp per liter... try again

[RobStar86]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

for the all the members that can't read Japanese, I just summarized it for ya.
p.s.
cyde01, if I made any mistake correct it for me

• Wheels might change to 16" & 17" instead of 18's.
• 17's gonna have 215/45R17
• 16's will have 205/55R16.
• 16's for the base model.
• Base model price is estimating around ￥230,000
• Main Grade (Grand Touring ver I guess) is estimating ￥250,000
• G's FT86 is possibly looking around ￥300,000
• Length: 4160mm (163.8")
• Width: 1760mm (69.3")
• Height: 1260mm (49.6")
• 200PS/7000rpm w 21kg/4500rpm (197hp/151tq)
• Base chassis was Impreza instead of Legacy ()
• Using/modding new Subaru's FB20 engine
• Engine bore/stroke: 84・0mm/90・0mm
• Transmission: Aisen AY6 6sp MT & AT
• 0~100km 7.7sec
• 50mm shorter than impreza w engine been pushed back 200mm
• They're estimating Final ver design will be release on Dec TMS
• Release around March of next yr

Hope that help out.

Regarding the price, it's ￥2,300,000 for the base grade, ￥2,500,000 for the main grade and ￥3,000,000 for the g's. One 0 off

[WhatIs86For]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Hm... maybe you need where's that 7.7sec stands in the current 2L NA FR.
2L Miata runs 0~100km in 7.9sec
2L BMW 120i coupe runs 0~100km in 7.8 sec
FT86 is 7.7secs.... yeah, 10k~15k cheaper than BMW 120i and still 0.2sec faster.

Also base engine FB20 is pushing 148ps (145hp) and they changed that to 200PS (197hp). That's pretty good improvement.

Again, if you want high hp/tq car then, you're looking at wrong car. Look into 370z, Genesis, Mustang, Camaro or whatever v engine cars. This car isn't no stock high hp/tq car.

edit: Also you're comparing this w Altima? Altima that has 3.5L v6 engine? You must be joking! If you look at hp/L ratio Altima is looking at 73.7hp per liter vs FT86 is 98.5hp per liter... try again

Oh dont get me wrong my friend,

Im not fan of high HP with bad drivability. In short, Im not a racing guy

I was just kind of disappointed when I saw these numbers.

[Chokonen888]

BTW, it says "7.7秒以外" less than 7.7 seconds...

[NESW20]

i'm still just gonna wait for Geneva. it's not that far off, really.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by RobStar86

Regarding the price, it's ￥2,300,000 for the base grade, ￥2,500,000 for the main grade and ￥3,000,000 for the g's. One 0 off

Thanks, while typing that, felt it was missing extra 0

Originally Posted by Chokonen888

BTW, it says "7.7秒以外" less than 7.7 seconds...

"以外" technically is "expectation" not "less than"

You meant to write "以下"?

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Thanks, while typing that, felt it was missing extra 0



"以外" technically is "expectation" not "less than"

You meant to write "以下"?

LOL, you're right, hit the wrong key, it's 以下 but yeah, it says less than 7.7secs

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Chokonen888

LOL, you're right, hit the wrong key, it's 以下 but yeah, it says less than 7.7secs

It's all good. I always make those mistake when I'm chatting w my bro in Japan

[Matador]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Hm... maybe you need where's that 7.7sec stands in the current 2L NA FR.
2L Miata runs 0~100km in 7.9sec
2L BMW 120i coupe runs 0~100km in 7.8 sec
FT86 is 7.7secs.... yeah, 10k~15k cheaper than BMW 120i and still 0.2sec faster.

Also base engine FB20 is pushing 148ps (145hp) and they changed that to 200PS (197hp). That's pretty good improvement.

Again, if you want high hp/tq car then, you're looking at wrong car. Look into 370z, Genesis, Mustang, Camaro or whatever v engine cars. This car isn't no stock high hp/tq car.

edit: Also you're comparing this w Altima? Altima that has 3.5L v6 engine? You must be joking! If you look at hp/L ratio Altima is looking at 73.7hp per liter vs FT86 is 98.5hp per liter... try again

The concern is not a high w/hp ratio, rather, if it can only do that with 200hp, how much the hell does it weigh.

The Miata only has ~170hp but weighs 2400lbs, the BMW has 170-200hp, but weighs over 3000lbs (2900-3200). I think you can see where I'm going with this.....

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

The concern is not a high w/hp ratio, rather, if it can only do that with 200hp, how much the hell does it weigh.

The Miata only has ~170hp but weighs 2400lbs, the BMW has 170-200hp, but weighs over 3000lbs (2900-3200). I think you can see where I'm going with this.....

True and I see where you going w this. I wish they wrote how much this thing weight... but sadly, they didn't. That's the only thing they left out on that article

[WhatIs86For]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

True and I see where you going w this. I wish they wrote how much this thing weight... but sadly, they didn't. That's the only thing they left out on that article

You remember when some1 posted a link about we can calculate the 0 to 60?

Lol i used that link and I start guessing how much weight it need to reach 0 to 60 in 7.7 and oh my god guess what??

Ill let you guess :P but here the link


its going to be 3810 LBS!!!