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Vlad · 04-26-2012, 05:48 PM

Did some more digging and found next:
http://www2.nykline.com/vesselsearch...ame=NYK+Altair

Spaceywilly · 04-26-2012, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad

Did some more digging and found next:
http://www2.nykline.com/vesselsearch...ame=NYK+Altair

NYK altair is a container ship

http://kelvindavies.co.uk/kelvin/dat..._altair_v2.jpg

Vlad · 04-26-2012, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

NYK altair is a container ship

http://kelvindavies.co.uk/kelvin/dat..._altair_v2.jpg

MmmHamSandwich · 04-26-2012, 06:01 PM

According to Wikipedia, the Cetus Leader, which at first glance appears to be a sister ship to ours, is a 6500 PCTC (Pure Car/Truck Carrier) which presumably means it can carry a maximum of 6500 vehicles.

While I'd imagine they fill it as best they can before sending it off, there's no telling what models are on the ship and how many of each there are.

Dave-ROR · 04-26-2012, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bslag

I believe this fact was disproved yesterday with a photo of the Auriga Leader sitting in the canal locks...
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=117

Interesting because the draft limit for the Canal is 12.6M and the Auriga Leader has a draft of 34.52M according to Wikipedia (which could be wrong of course). Maybe if it's empty and they pump out the tanks...

Dave-ROR · 04-26-2012, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

NYK altair is a container ship

http://kelvindavies.co.uk/kelvin/dat..._altair_v2.jpg

Yep, the Altair is an older ship. The Altair Leader is a pretty new (2010 or 2011 IIRC) RoRo..

NYC BRZ · 04-26-2012, 06:25 PM

I never thought I would be so educated on maritime statistics and logistics on a car forum. I love this forum.

Vlad · 04-26-2012, 06:25 PM

ALTAIR LEADER - Draught: 8.5 m

Spaceywilly · 04-26-2012, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Interesting because the draft limit for the Canal is 12.6M and the Auriga Leader has a draft of 34.52M according to Wikipedia (which could be wrong of course). Maybe if it's empty and they pump out the tanks...

Marine traffic lists the draft as 9.8m for this voyage.

Quote:

Voyage Related Info (Last Received)

Draught: 9.8 m
Destination: BALBOA
ETA: 2012-05-15 12:00
Info Received: 2012-04-25 12:53 (1d, 8h 33min ago)

34.52m is the beam width

Quote:

Vessel's Details

Ship Type: Vehicles carrier
Year Built: 2011
Length x Breadth: 199 m X 32 m
Gross Tonnage: 60200, DeadWeight: 18600 t
Speed recorded (Max / Average): 18.5 / 13.7 knots

Dave-ROR · 04-26-2012, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

Marine traffic lists the draft as 9.8m for this voyage.

34.52m is the beam width

The beam is definately 32M, that's listed all over the place. If the beam were 34.52M that would definately exclude it from the Panama Canal too as Panamax is 32.31M and the width of the locks (unless the rebuild has been completed) is 33.53M.

I was getting the draft from wiki for the Auriga Leader (which is the same class RoRo as the Altair Leader, same tonnage, length and beam, etc): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auriga_Leader

Obviously Wiki is wrong

Sportsguy83 · 04-26-2012, 06:53 PM

Just bored, looking at Canal pictures online found this one with a description

(A little confirmation that it fits through the canal)

"Car carrier at the Balboa Port"

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Enemies · 04-26-2012, 07:07 PM

The beam is just the widest part of the ship. Even if it's wider than the canal, it doesn't matter as long as it has clearance of the canal itself.

dookie11 · 04-26-2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsguy83

Just bored, looking at Canal pictures online found this one with a description

(A little confirmation that it fits through the canal)

"Car carrier at the Balboa Port"

Attachment 6896

LOL at the pirate boats gettin ready to grab my BRZ for me.

Enemies · 04-26-2012, 07:35 PM

I know people have bounced back and forth between yes/no/yes/no whether or not the ship can go through the canal.

Found this image as well. Obviously not going to stand up in court but...

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04-26-2012, 05:48 PM	#211
Vlad Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: BRZ Limited AT Location: Los Angeles Posts: 24 Thanks: 41 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Did some more digging and found next: http://www2.nykline.com/vesselsearch...ame=NYK+Altair

04-26-2012, 06:01 PM	#214
MmmHamSandwich You know you want it. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S Location: RVA Posts: 705 Thanks: 160 Thanked 327 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	According to Wikipedia, the Cetus Leader, which at first glance appears to be a sister ship to ours, is a 6500 PCTC (Pure Car/Truck Carrier) which presumably means it can carry a maximum of 6500 vehicles. While I'd imagine they fill it as best they can before sending it off, there's no telling what models are on the ship and how many of each there are.

04-26-2012, 06:25 PM	#217
NYC BRZ AutoX Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 08 Pontiac G8 GT,13 GBS BRZ Limited Location: Queens, NY Posts: 723 Thanks: 168 Thanked 118 Times in 83 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I never thought I would be so educated on maritime statistics and logistics on a car forum. I love this forum.

04-26-2012, 06:25 PM	#218
Vlad Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: BRZ Limited AT Location: Los Angeles Posts: 24 Thanks: 41 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	ALTAIR LEADER - Draught: 8.5 m

04-26-2012, 07:07 PM	#222
Enemies Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 SWP Sport-Tech (Limited) Location: Okanagan Valley, Canada Posts: 1,093 Thanks: 11 Thanked 86 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The beam is just the widest part of the ship. Even if it's wider than the canal, it doesn't matter as long as it has clearance of the canal itself.

04-26-2012, 07:35 PM	#224
Enemies Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 SWP Sport-Tech (Limited) Location: Okanagan Valley, Canada Posts: 1,093 Thanks: 11 Thanked 86 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know people have bounced back and forth between yes/no/yes/no whether or not the ship can go through the canal. Found this image as well. Obviously not going to stand up in court but...

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