Toyota GR Yaris

[Cole]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

+1 it's very good at 7/10ths on factory all seasons, stock dampers are a bit wallowy but that's how you get a comfy ride at a $20k price point, 8/10ths and I started to get a bit nervous. I'd love to toss some Koni yellows on it, play with the alignment (very similar looking front strut to an 86 up front, should be able to get some camber), and with some summer tires it should be pretty damn capable, engine is just a touch of a let down for the weight but revs about 2.5k higher than you think it should which feels silly in a good way wringing it out. It might fall apart on stock springs and 200tw though. idk if it has 'character' it feels about as unique as an FRS does imho fwiw. Oh and apparently it fits 9.5" wide wheels without much modification.

I could see a case for an Si competitor (especially since the Si isn't a hatch) with that 3 banger, an LSD, and a firmer suspension package. But you can already option it up to $26k so I don't think they can make the price point to actually compete with the Si. They'll have to make it great at that $30k Veloster N benchmark, it's certainly possible but it will take work.

Plenty of good reviews on the chassis already.

Can't say I got it up to 7/10ths during my time with it, but I took a familiar on-ramp much quicker than expected, only about 10-15km/h slower than what I do in the FRS.

It was good to the point that I started looking at trading my FRS in for it, because it would work much better for my day-to-day life than the twin is now. Plus it just looks so damn good in that light blue colour.

[JD001]

Originally Posted by Cole

Canadian review: https://doubleclutch.ca/2020-toyota-corolla-xse/

This guy is a quite competent HPDE driver, so what he says carries some weight with me.

I think a comparative test/review would convince me.. the Double Clutch article starts off with a statement that the car is 'Leaps and bounds over its predecessor in terms of driving dynamics.'. That's not a very high bar to set...

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by JD001

I have not seen one review of this car on this side of the pond.. not that I've been looking out for them.. However, I do religiously read Car and Evo.. and it hasn't appeared in either mag.

Cars that do get good write-ups are: Ford Focus, Fiesta, vW Golf, Hyundai i30, Ceed, Honda Civic Type R, Renault Mégane and Seat Leon Cupra.. Toyota never featured highly even in the days of the Corolla GTi.. The new Corolla may be hitting a 'sweet spot' with the American tastes..

Toyota hasn't put effort into a hatchback in the US for a long time, we're so starved for them this one feels more special than it really is. It's really an attempt to compete with the Golf and Focus and I could understand someone simply saying " meh it doesn't suck"

In any case, looks like y'all got gyped on the Corolla, only cvt hybrids available instead of the 7.2k redline 6MT we've got.
https://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/22863/2...here-somewhere

Idk why you mention the CTR, that car is almost double the cost of the entry level hatches we're talking about. Civic would be my choice for sportiest $20k economy car but I haven't really been in a golf yet.

[weederr33]

I don't know if any of you have seen the TOM'S Corolla Hatch, but the lip kip, wheels, and quad exhaust look amazing. Just pop in the 3cyl turbo and a better suspension and I'm sold.

[JD001]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I don't know if any of you have seen the TOM'S Corolla Hatch, but the lip kip, wheels, and quad exhaust look amazing. Just pop in the 3cyl turbo and a better suspension and I'm sold.

And AWD, call it a GR4...

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Cole

Can't say I got it up to 7/10ths during my time with it, but I took a familiar on-ramp much quicker than expected, only about 10-15km/h slower than what I do in the FRS.

It was good to the point that I started looking at trading my FRS in for it, because it would work much better for my day-to-day life than the twin is now. Plus it just looks so damn good in that light blue colour.

It's my brother's so I'm hoping I get a go in it at 10/10ths this year. I'm even thinking about just slapping my 245/40/17 re71rs on it when he's not looking and taking it to an autox.

Edit: I'll take a good 220 hp fwd w/ good LSD over a body kit and AWD every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Cole

These two posts make me wonder if either of you have driven the Corolla on the TNGA platform. It is an absolutely fantastic package, making for a wonderful handling car. When my FRS was getting repaired after being rear ended, I had a rental Corolla SE hatch and it was extremely good at going quickly around corners.

Nope. I've been thinking about trying a hatch though, I might need a second car since everyone whine's I only have 1 seat in my BRZ.

[JD001]

Yaris family stats from a car website:

Dimensions Yaris Cross GR Yaris Yaris hatchback
Length 4,180 mm 3,995 mm 3,940 mm
Width 1,765 mm 1,806 mm 1,745 mm
Height 1,560 mm 1,461 mm 1,470 mm
Wheelbase 2,560 mm 2,558 mm 2,560 mm

The Yaris Cross comes with a 1.5-litre three-cylinder petrol engine with hybrid technology, which is the same powertrain that was debuted with the 2020 Yaris hatch. The maximum power output of this engine is rated at 116 hp. Toyota will offer the Yaris Cross with a front-wheel drive variant, as well as an all-wheel drive trim.

GR Yaris gets a 1.6-litre turbocharged three-cylinder petrol engine that makes 261 hp of maximum power, along with 360 Nm of peak torque. The power is sent to all four wheels with the help of a 6-speed manual gearbox. The said powertrain is also the world’s most powerful OEM three-cylinder engine.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by JD001

The said powertrain is also the world’s most powerful OEM three-cylinder engine.

hmmmmmm. I mean if they say High volume sure, but if you count Koenigsegg as an OEM:

Koenigsegg Tiny Friendly Giant 3-cylinder Internal Combustion Engine:
• Compression: 9.5:1 - Bore: 95 mm - stroke: 93.5 mm
• Closed-loop combustion control with in-cylinder pressure sensing
• 440 kW (600 bhp) at 7500 rpm, red line at 8500 rpm
• Torque: 600 Nm from 2000 rpm to 7000 rpm
• Engine weight: 70 kg

[weederr33]

[beltax90]

still want one of these so badly

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by beltax90

still want one of these so badly

I bet a there would have been a higher chance of this coming over IF the NA Yaris was the new TNGA Global Yaris instead of the Rebadged Mazda2.

[beltax90]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

I bet a there would have been a higher chance of this coming over IF the NA Yaris was the new TNGA Global Yaris instead of the Rebadged Mazda2.

i thought this was cool!

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2022/

better read it quick before the grumpy no fun police get to it first

[jflogerzi]

It better have a diff or it will be doa in my eyes. It will be nice to have a go fast hatch but the 1.6 will not offer much more room for added performance. It will be already pretty maxed is my guess.

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