New FR-S BRZ Technology Info! Engine specs, CoG, Drag Coefficient, Dimensions, etc. - Page 15 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

cyde01 · 11-02-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

You guys keep saying it's not that type of car, that 197hp is enough for a 2700# car. Well it isn't, not for 2012 and what it'll be up against on the track in it's class

then go buy the competition. no one is forcing you to buy this car.

btw this is not on topic for the leak threads, and there are probably 10+ threads in the drivetrain forum about this topic. keep threads on topic and don't make any more work for the poor mods.

Spaceywilly · 11-02-2011, 07:08 PM

I love the MCS. I'd probably buy one if it was RWD (and if they made one I could stand being seen in). I still prefer NA engines though. The turbo on the new MCS spools a fast as any I've driven, but it still doesn't have the same feeling as an NA engine.

PAImportTuner · 11-02-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

You don't even know how much these can be bored out.

I'm fine with more power, but really, when did anyone ever expect more than 200HP? They've been saying 200HP for what, 3 years or something?

Anyone shocked, upset or disappointed by something that was known 3 years ago just needs to get over it. Or perhaps shouldn't have wasted 3 years watching this car when they could have bought something with 300hp already.

I've known the actual specifics for a very long time, that's not the point. I like to start debates and bring others into the conversation and sparking interest since we have new members everyday joining. This is what makes manufactures do crazy things on next year model later if there is enough interest and uproar, Toyota chose the targeted power and that's why it is what it is. I'm not angry because I know what is to come from Subaru, and my current car allows me to hold off versus jumping into these.

ryridesmotox · 11-02-2011, 07:13 PM

The mini cooper S only as 181hp... If you want to compare it to the competition like the Miata, or the genesis, because they are the only competition out there really for this car. Then it stacks up well. My thing is that I like to have a car that punches above its weight so to speak. One that will line up next to a vette, camaro, challenger, mustang, or imports and make them sweat.

PAImportTuner · 11-02-2011, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

I love the MCS. I'd probably buy one if it was RWD (and if they made one I could stand being seen in). I still prefer NA engines though. The turbo on the new MCS spools a fast as any I've driven, but it still doesn't have the same feeling as an NA engine.

I have the R53(S/C) so it's like high hp N/A.

Praetendere · 11-02-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

I own a MINI Cooper S it is not a dragster but it puts down more tq and hp earlier in powerband and at peak than the FRS and weighs less, I'm pretty confident that it handles the same if not better, it has power bolt-ons, flash BUT stock suspension. The argument isn't about me being faster or beating the FRS, it's about even my damn car which are all these things still isn't enough.

If your car isn't enough and this car isn't set to as much as your car then why are you even following it?

blur · 11-02-2011, 07:19 PM

I gotta say, HP is definitely addictive. You experience it once and can't stop thinking about how you'll get your next fix. I'll bet the guys screamin TURBO are all HP junkies. I cant blame them.

Oh wait, I can...

Dave-ROR · 11-02-2011, 07:21 PM

I just want more translations please!!!

Oh and for Toyota to listen to what I wanted leaked next :P

fred_boosted · 11-02-2011, 07:27 PM

My EVO X GSR with all bolt ons tunned with 337 whp (dyno jet I belive, it reads more than mustang) I think it is fast, and it did good in auto x. I remember once two teenage boys drive a honda civic Si with turbo build (It has intercooler, I saw it in my mirror. No offense) was provoke me on the road. I'm not a fan of road race, but I want give them a lesson, so I someked them. However, why I think 200 hp for 2700lb FRS is not enough is because I don't want provoke by an EVO or STi and somked by them on the road.

fred_boosted · 11-02-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blur

I gotta say, HP is definitely addictive. You experience it once and can't stop thinking about how you'll get your next fix. I'll bet the guys screamin TURBO are all HP junkies. I cant blame them.

Oh wait, I can...

I think most people think 200 hp stock is good enough, including me.

We are thinking about how to get more, with after market parts. For example: Turbo.

So...

ryridesmotox · 11-02-2011, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blur

I gotta say, HP is definitely addictive. You experience it once and can't stop thinking about how you'll get your next fix. I'll bet the guys screamin TURBO are all HP junkies. I cant blame them.

Oh wait, I can...

Just remember this line from my favorite movie:

"It can never be fast enough"

-The Driver, Two lane Blacktop 1971

4point8 · 11-02-2011, 07:33 PM

Woot! More specs

This car just keeps on getting better and better!

AudiTT · 11-02-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fred_boosted

I think most people think 200 hp stock is good enough

I think 200hp is (barely) enough, but the TRQ is not even close to being acceptable. Taking into account that this is quite a light car, 230-250nm would've been ok, if the torqueband is broad from low down the revrange. But 205nm at 6600rpm...

madfast · 11-02-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

I've known the actual specifics for a very long time

so what ECU does the car use? will it be encrypted?

11-02-2011, 07:08 PM	#198
Spaceywilly ZC6A2B82KC7J Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2002 WRX Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 361 Thanked 727 Times in 236 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I love the MCS. I'd probably buy one if it was RWD (and if they made one I could stand being seen in). I still prefer NA engines though. The turbo on the new MCS spools a fast as any I've driven, but it still doesn't have the same feeling as an NA engine. __________________ Straights are for fast cars. Turns are for fast drivers.

11-02-2011, 07:13 PM	#200
ryridesmotox Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2010 Chevy Cobalt SS, 59 Ford F100 Location: Carlsbad, Comi-fornia Posts: 127 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The mini cooper S only as 181hp... If you want to compare it to the competition like the Miata, or the genesis, because they are the only competition out there really for this car. Then it stacks up well. My thing is that I like to have a car that punches above its weight so to speak. One that will line up next to a vette, camaro, challenger, mustang, or imports and make them sweat. __________________ 2010 Chevy Cobalt SS Treadstone Performance Stage 3 kit: CAI, Charge Pipes, TR8 intercooler, Maf Relocate, 52MM Turbosmart BOV, 3 inch catless downpipe, 3 inch catback, borla XR1 muffler, Exedy Hypersingle, TWM short throw shifter, 24PSI HPtuned by Terminator2 on E85/91

11-02-2011, 07:19 PM	#203
blur ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: E36 5.7 V8 Location: Bronx, NYC Posts: 1,573 Thanks: 194 Thanked 198 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I gotta say, HP is definitely addictive. You experience it once and can't stop thinking about how you'll get your next fix. I'll bet the guys screamin TURBO are all HP junkies. I cant blame them. Oh wait, I can... __________________ I wish I was cool enough to have an FR-S

11-02-2011, 07:21 PM	#204
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	I just want more translations please!!! Oh and for Toyota to listen to what I wanted leaked next :P __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

11-02-2011, 07:27 PM	#205
fred_boosted Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2008 EVO X GSR (Sold) Location: USA Posts: 100 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My EVO X GSR with all bolt ons tunned with 337 whp (dyno jet I belive, it reads more than mustang) I think it is fast, and it did good in auto x. I remember once two teenage boys drive a honda civic Si with turbo build (It has intercooler, I saw it in my mirror. No offense) was provoke me on the road. I'm not a fan of road race, but I want give them a lesson, so I someked them. However, why I think 200 hp for 2700lb FRS is not enough is because I don't want provoke by an EVO or STi and somked by them on the road. __________________ I could get Maserati Quattroporte or BMW M3/M6. But I gived up. Why? Because thats just not my style.

11-02-2011, 07:33 PM	#208
4point8 Waiting patiently Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: a slow car :( Location: Brisbane Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Woot! More specs This car just keeps on getting better and better!

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