This is not a winter car! Fed up! May end up selling...

[Dipstik-sportech]

Here's the contradiction. I had no issues in the snow. There done, what's your comeback? Feel free to fly to Ontario and I'll take u for a spin, pun intended

The Frozen North

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

Here's the contradiction. I had no issues in the snow. There done, what's your comeback? Feel free to fly to Ontario and I'll take u for a spin, pun intended

The Frozen North

You keep missing the point.

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by jvincent

Full of yourself much?

The article says that wider, stickier tires and a change in damper settings give the car much more grip. Well freakin' duh.

The OP complained because he got a low riding, light, RWD car stuck in the 8-10 inches of snow. He also mentioned that it was better with TRAC off. Again, duh. That happens to be what it says in the owners manual, i.e. disengage TRAC if you are stuck in snow.

Wider, stickier tires are not going to help this car in the winter. I can guarantee you than a minor change in the suspension tuning isn't going to magically change it either.

If you can't control the throttle properly in slippery conditions then you should really get another car for the winter and stop trying to push the blame for your poor winter driving skills onto the design of the car.

Apparently you can't read.

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by wparsons

The difference is that engineers know something about something, you don't seem to know how to do anything but spread bad information.

Actually, I know a great deal about a great deal. But then I read and write for a living.

I can't imagine a nuclear power plant is particularly difficult to run, isn't it all handled by computers? I assume you don't actually control the fuel rod insertion by hand.....

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Suberman

Apparently you can't read.

Apparently you're an asshole lawyer who should have bought a different car.

[Dipstik-sportech]

You said this car preforms poorly in slippery conditions, I say it doesn't. Prove me wrong. There's more people on here disagreeing with you than agreeing so that right there says a lot. If the two of you have such an issue with its snow handling buy a Hummer or a house in Florida.

The Frozen North

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by Suberman

Apparently you can't read.

Apparently when you start to lose an arguement you resort to insults.

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by jvincent

Apparently when you start to lose an arguement you resort to insults.

It's only insulting if you can't. If you actually read the article you would feel stupid, not insulted.

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

You said this car preforms poorly in slippery conditions, I say it doesn't. Prove me wrong. There's more people on here disagreeing with you than agreeing so that right there says a lot. If the two of you have such an issue with its snow handling buy a Hummer or a house in Florida.

The Frozen North

I don't have to prove anything.

On your next trip to Calgary I can easily demonstrate my point.

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Apparently you're an asshole lawyer who should have bought a different car.

Oh, ouch.

[utekineir]

4months later


He's still posting about the same exact topic, in about the 30th different thread.

Do you ever get bored of complaining about the same thing every day?

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by Suberman

It's only insulting if you can't. If you actually read the article you would feel stupid, not insulted.

Please point out my oh so terrible reading comprehension problem. Or where what I said contradicted what was in the article.

Let me help you with a quote from the article.

But it's when you really push it hard that the new lighter wheels and stickier tyres - branded with the 86 logo on the sidewall -comes into their own.

It turns in harder, holds more mid corner speed and has better traction under hard acceleration. It can still be provoked into gentle tail slides but it all happens at much higher speeds than the regular set-up.

[stugray]

I'll offer my observation:
The first time I ever drove the BRZ in the snow, it behaved like the absolute worst car I have ever driven in the snow (30 years of snow driving experience in over 20 different cars: Rear engine, mid engine, front drive, rear drive, trucks, etc.).
The TC, ABS, & VSC went f'in nuts and not only did it make the car un-driveable but after once around the block I parked it and the car smelled like something electrical had caught fire.
That was from the "nannies" working so hard that the systems were actually stressed.
(disclaimer: car had the stock tires and it was black ice everywhere)

Since then I have learned how to drive with just a small amount of snow on the ground.
My wife's Passat or my Solara with all seasons would both drive circles around the BRZ

So moral of the story: If you only experience this car in the snow on very rare occasions, it IS THE WORST I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED.
If you get some practice and proper tires, it behaves much better.

My Supra did better in the snow and had NO nannies except basic ABS (which could be disabled).
And after living my entire life in Colorado, I have never ONCE bought snow tires before.

[that_guy]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

I hope to see all you fellow Fujiwaras and McRaes at an autocross this summer.

I'll be the white FRS with the dented quaterpanel, please come and say hello

Think I saw you the other day going up Yonge St at Steeles. If i'm right, you saw me in my black FR-S with silver steelies going up the right side.

That's a nasty ding...

Originally Posted by Frost

I'll be at the PITL series at least - still debating whether I want to drive up to Barrie for that series.

If I don't pick up a second car, I'll be in the blue Vitz / Echo hatch you see in my sig! Not a Fujiwara or a McCrae though...

Drive up to Barrie! It's worth it. Big lot, lots of fun. You can try and beat me