follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Software Tuning

Software Tuning Discuss all software tuning topics.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-08-2013, 05:51 PM   #183
xcelir8brz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,029
Thanks: 45
Thanked 235 Times in 157 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by xcelir8brz View Post
Jack-

What is the difference in drop in filter and cat back vs. drop in filter and header back map? More fuel dump?
Bump.
xcelir8brz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 06:51 PM   #184
SubieNate
Senior Member
 
SubieNate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: 2013 FR-S Ultramarine
Location: Temecula, CA
Posts: 959
Thanks: 288
Thanked 560 Times in 269 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Is there any potential for flexfuel sensors with the unichip?
SubieNate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 07:54 PM   #185
ScionFrsFan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Location: America
Posts: 702
Thanks: 274
Thanked 119 Times in 79 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
what power gains with e85...?
__________________
ScionFrsFan
ScionFrsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 09:30 PM   #186
xcelir8brz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,029
Thanks: 45
Thanked 235 Times in 157 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
After reapplying the factory map I ordered to the the first bank 0 yesterday evening and driving the car today, for some reason the car pulls exceptionally more - similar temperatures outside, and I definitely can feel the improvement. I can also hear it in the intake as well as the exhaust and I clocked 12MPH faster in one short quick sprint stretch I drive daily. Simply Amazing! Can't wait for the Flux2!
xcelir8brz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 09:31 PM   #187
xcelir8brz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,029
Thanks: 45
Thanked 235 Times in 157 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScionFrsFan View Post
what power gains with e85...?
F the E85. That is poor man's power.
xcelir8brz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 09:53 PM   #188
ScionFrsFan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Location: America
Posts: 702
Thanks: 274
Thanked 119 Times in 79 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by xcelir8brz View Post
After reapplying the factory map I ordered to the the first bank 0 yesterday evening and driving the car today, for some reason the car pulls exceptionally more - similar temperatures outside, and I definitely can feel the improvement. I can also hear it in the intake as well as the exhaust and I clocked 12MPH faster in one short quick sprint stretch I drive daily. Simply Amazing! Can't wait for the Flux2!
I don't understand? You just reflashed a stock map again?
__________________
ScionFrsFan
ScionFrsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 09:55 PM   #189
ScionFrsFan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Location: America
Posts: 702
Thanks: 274
Thanked 119 Times in 79 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by xcelir8brz View Post
F the E85. That is poor man's power.
Lol ill take free power anyday
__________________
ScionFrsFan
ScionFrsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 09:56 PM   #190
xcelir8brz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,029
Thanks: 45
Thanked 235 Times in 157 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScionFrsFan View Post
I don't understand? You just reflashed a stock map again?
Sorry for the confusion.

I ordered the UniChip with 'drop in air filter, cat b +). A premium map for that was in the first bank from the factory and a lower gas version of that was in the second bank.

I wiped all banks last night and put in 4 different maps and re-applied the 'drop in air filter, cat b +) in the first bank. Just to make sure this is what was truly was on the unit.

After today's performance improvement (i.e. what I felt), I question if they put the right grade of fuel map in the correct bank.

xcelir8brz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to xcelir8brz For This Useful Post:
ScionFrsFan (01-08-2013)
Old 01-09-2013, 12:00 AM   #191
Unichip Jack
 
Unichip Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: E36 M3, Whiteout FR-S
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 235
Thanks: 3
Thanked 174 Times in 84 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Standard map loads… just to clarify, all of our kits ship with the lower octane fuel map in switch position 0 and higher octane fuel map in switch position 1… there's generally not a right or wrong way to map things, but your kit will arrive with the map that should deliver the best premium fuel performance in switch position 1.

Map variances… Since there have been a number of map specific questions, tomorrow I’ll start a new thread just about mapping. For this thread, the difference between the All Drop-in Filter map and the All Drop-in Filter, All Header, All Cat/B map is a little bit of fueling and a little bit of timing, but the maps are very similar.

E85… For the eager E85 guys in the crowd, we’re working on a number of options (including an integrated Flex Fuel sensor, yes that's a possibility with the Unichip)… but we haven't made any final decisions about the configuration yet.

One of the biggest advantages of adding a computer to the car as your EMS is that there are a lot of options for doing things… and the Unichip is a very flexible system, which means there are even more options. From an engineering perspective, that’s challenging because we want to offer the most options and the most flexibility to the user without adding extra components and cost.
We’re busy with things, but it’s more than just changing the timing and fueling values, and it takes just a bit of time to ensure its right the first time.

Cheers
Unichip Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2013, 12:22 AM   #192
Sojhinn
Lightning McQueen Driver
 
Sojhinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: Limited Red 6MT BRZ
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,242
Thanks: 753
Thanked 1,167 Times in 644 Posts
Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
I am very interested in the flex fuel. I know you are running the special this month, but I was curious will the flex fuel option be out before the end of the month so we capitalize on the discounts you are offering now? Right now I am having a hard time choosing between you guys and Visconti. Both of you are offering compelling choices.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Unichip Jack View Post
Standard map loads… just to clarify, all of our kits ship with the lower octane fuel map in switch position 0 and higher octane fuel map in switch position 1… there's generally not a right or wrong way to map things, but your kit will arrive with the map that should deliver the best premium fuel performance in switch position 1.

Map variances… Since there have been a number of map specific questions, tomorrow I’ll start a new thread just about mapping. For this thread, the difference between the All Drop-in Filter map and the All Drop-in Filter, All Header, All Cat/B map is a little bit of fueling and a little bit of timing, but the maps are very similar.

E85… For the eager E85 guys in the crowd, we’re working on a number of options (including an integrated Flex Fuel sensor, yes that's a possibility with the Unichip)… but we haven't made any final decisions about the configuration yet.

One of the biggest advantages of adding a computer to the car as your EMS is that there are a lot of options for doing things… and the Unichip is a very flexible system, which means there are even more options. From an engineering perspective, that’s challenging because we want to offer the most options and the most flexibility to the user without adding extra components and cost.
We’re busy with things, but it’s more than just changing the timing and fueling values, and it takes just a bit of time to ensure its right the first time.

Cheers
Sojhinn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2013, 07:57 AM   #193
xcelir8brz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,029
Thanks: 45
Thanked 235 Times in 157 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unichip Jack View Post
Standard map loads… just to clarify, all of our kits ship with the lower octane fuel map in switch position 0 and higher octane fuel map in switch position 1… there's generally not a right or wrong way to map things, but your kit will arrive with the map that should deliver the best premium fuel performance in switch position 1.

Map variances… Since there have been a number of map specific questions, tomorrow I’ll start a new thread just about mapping. For this thread, the difference between the All Drop-in Filter map and the All Drop-in Filter, All Header, All Cat/B map is a little bit of fueling and a little bit of timing, but the maps are very similar.

E85… For the eager E85 guys in the crowd, we’re working on a number of options (including an integrated Flex Fuel sensor, yes that's a possibility with the Unichip)… but we haven't made any final decisions about the configuration yet.

One of the biggest advantages of adding a computer to the car as your EMS is that there are a lot of options for doing things… and the Unichip is a very flexible system, which means there are even more options. From an engineering perspective, that’s challenging because we want to offer the most options and the most flexibility to the user without adding extra components and cost.
We’re busy with things, but it’s more than just changing the timing and fueling values, and it takes just a bit of time to ensure its right the first time.

Cheers
It is in my understanding that...

Mechanical switch position 1 equals Main Bank
Mechanical switch position 0 equals Bank 1
- Bank 2
- Bank 3
- Bank 4
xcelir8brz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2013, 12:12 PM   #194
Unichip Jack
 
Unichip Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: E36 M3, Whiteout FR-S
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 235
Thanks: 3
Thanked 174 Times in 84 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
If you have a Unichip and download cable, you have access our entire maps library… whatever maps we add to the library and any point in the future, you can download them at no cost. If the discount is a key factor in your decision, get your kit during the member’s special and download the maps when they’re released… best of both worlds.
I’ll get the map thread opened shortly and we can go over the mapping stuff… we load the lower octane map in switch position 0 and higher octane map in switch position 1.

Cheers
Unichip Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2013, 03:21 PM   #195
naikaidriver
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S AT Asphalt
Location: Lynnwood, WA
Posts: 770
Thanks: 145
Thanked 673 Times in 289 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I have been reading about your product and I am very interested. While I am aware of the stigma surrounding piggy-back units that monitor and modify sensor data I have always had good luck with them. Over the years I have used the various Apex'i SAFC products in 3 of my cars with a lot of success (read: I didn't blow any engines apart).

Aside from the higher complexity and programmability of the Unichip and the ability to store more than two configurations at a time, what other advantages do you present above other comparable products?

Scott
naikaidriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2013, 06:03 PM   #196
Unichip Jack
 
Unichip Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: E36 M3, Whiteout FR-S
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 235
Thanks: 3
Thanked 174 Times in 84 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Scott... are you asking about a comparison between Unichip and other piggyback systems or between Unichip and everything else?

For the general crowd, the "stigma" about piggybacks all comes from poor programming. There were several third party tuning companies who jumped in with both feet using piggyback systems - including early version of the Unichip - but their knowledge level about engine management in general and piggybacks in particular didn't match their enthusiasm. Different topic probably...

Cheers
Unichip Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Let's get tuning! EcuTek tuning now available! carbonBLUE Southwest 6 06-29-2015 03:37 PM
Unichip EMS Unichip Jack Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 300 11-22-2014 04:13 AM
unichip 13 FR-S Veteran Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 9 02-04-2013 12:05 AM
unichip 13 FR-S Veteran CANADA 0 12-03-2012 06:31 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.