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Old 04-20-2016, 12:45 PM   #183
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Dad ... if you had that car ... you would probably be complaining it had TOO much torque and TOO much HP. You would be dreaming if only you had a light weight car with USABLE power with a powerband that can be used all the time.
J/K.
If I get one I will just go V6 (gasp, the horror. can't wait for the responses to that one) since it has plenty for my needs.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:49 PM   #184
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Dad ... if you had that car ... you would probably be complaining it had TOO much torque and TOO much HP. You would be dreaming if only you had a light weight car with USABLE power with a powerband that can be used all the time.
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Yea, but if I was, I wouldn't be doing it on here, so no one would know. Honestly, no such thing as TOO of either of those, although I do agree about the usable power comment. Like @Tcoat I would be tempted to get the V6 but would probably give in in the end.
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See that is just it. It seems to be common that everybody says you need to be top end revs all the time. I just don't find that and for city/highway driving it performs just fine through the whole range. I also feel that the whole "the torque dip ruins everything" sentiment is laughable when talking daily street driving. If I didn't know it was there I doubt I would ever have even noticed. One dude here complained that it took him two or three minutes to get out of the dip. I would pay money to see just how he was driving.
Same here. I'm the first guy off the light, and rarely get "outrun". Had the whole subject not come up on here, I would have never noticed it. Heck, during the First86 test drive in Long Beach not a single one of the drivers mentioned it as something they observed.

I pretty much adjust my driving style to the vehicle and its quirks. I drive our Suburban differently than I do MomHawk's Mustang, then my FR-S.
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Yea, but if I was, I wouldn't be doing it on here, so no one would know. Honestly, no such thing as TOO of either of those, although I do agree about the usable power comment. Like @Tcoat I would be tempted to get the V6 but would probably give in in the end.
Isn't the whole point of those cars to have way more than you need(or even want)? I kinda feel like the v6 would be like if they put a hybrid 1.3 in the FRS. Sure you have a good looking car but kinda defeats the purpose
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:57 PM   #187
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Isn't the whole point of those cars to have way more than you need(or even want)? I kinda feel like the v6 would be like if they put a hybrid 1.3 in the FRS. Sure you have a good looking car but kinda defeats the purpose
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See that is just it. It seems to be common that everybody says you need to be top end revs all the time. I just don't find that and for city/highway driving it performs just fine through the whole range. I also feel that the whole "the torque dip ruins everything" sentiment is laughable when talking daily street driving. If I didn't know it was there I doubt I would ever have even noticed. One dude here complained that it took him two or three minutes to get out of the dip. I would pay money to see just how he was driving.
No I think the car works fine my point was I can hardly find a time except like 3am when I can really open it up full retard.

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Isn't the whole point of those cars to have way more than you need(or even want)? I kinda feel like the v6 would be like if they put a hybrid 1.3 in the FRS. Sure you have a good looking car but kinda defeats the purpose
What is "the purpose"? The V6 would work perfectly fine as a quick and nimble DD and that is the "purpose" that I would want it for. My drag racing days are over, I do not post my HP on Facebook or Instagram, and could not possibly care less if Bubba at the car meet tells me that the car needs a V8 to be real.


Does adding sticker tires, body kits, big wings and FI to the FRS not "defeat the purpose" of it?
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What is "the purpose"? The V6 would work perfectly fine as a quick and nimble DD and that is the "purpose" that I would want it for. My drag racing days are over, I do not post my HP on Facebook or Instagram, and could not possibly care less if Bubba at the car meet tells me that the car needs a V8 to be real.


Does adding sticker tires, body kits, big wings and FI to the FRS not "defeat the purpose" of it?
It's not going to be as light though either with a V8 though is it? I mean there is something to be said for an effcient CAR. Forget MPGs or even effcient power, if you don't have to slow down for the turns you don't have to accelerate again back out of them.

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*cough* I meant hypothetically of course...

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What is "the purpose"? The V6 would work perfectly fine as a quick and nimble DD and that is the "purpose" that I would want it for. My drag racing days are over, I do not post my HP on Facebook or Instagram, and could not possibly care less if Bubba at the car meet tells me that the car needs a V8 to be real.


Does adding sticker tires, body kits, big wings and FI to the FRS not "defeat the purpose" of it?
I feel they add to the purpose. My wing doesn't hinder my ability to do anything but will improve traction on the track. Isn't the FRS supposed to be a cheap race car anyways?
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It's not going to be as light though either with a V8 though is it? I mean there is something to be said for an effcient CAR. Forget MPGs or even effcient power, if you don't have to slow down for the turns you don't have to accelerate again back out of them.

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What's the weight difference?I doubt it's enough to change the handling characteristics
Umm the geometry. The weight in this car is very well placed. I mean a supercharger might not change much but an LS1 or something would get nose heavy no?

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I was referring to the 0 60 time in auto vs stick. Assumed he drove auto because he said it took him forever to get going again. Just doesn't take me very long to get from one light to another.


Not sure where your going with all this hostility. He drives a porsche now so doesn't matter.
My auto with less than $500 in mods on E85 is slightly sub 6 seconds 0-60...

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