FR-S/BRZ vs. Genesis Coupe

[Tbxgz]

Originally Posted by MTD

I had my test drive today. 2.0 manual Premium in the new grey colour. I have a bone stock (except for an intake) 2.0 manual GT. Drive was about 30 minutes on city roads without the salesmen.

At first i was confused because the premium only comes in auto and the one you test drove was clearly manual. Then i put two and two together and realized your in Canada.

The Canadian trims have such better options.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Tbxgz

At first i was confused because the premium only comes in auto and the one you test drove was clearly manual. Then i put two and two together and realized your in Canada.

The Canadian trims have such better options.

Didn't give us an R-Spec in the old one, though. So the only way to get all the performance stuff was bundled with all the luxury stuff.

Fixed now, thankfully.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Didn't give us an R-Spec in the old one, though. So the only way to get all the performance stuff was bundled with all the luxury stuff.

Fixed now, thankfully.

About time! I intend to test drive the FR-S/BRZ and the R-Spec 2.0 on the same day if I can arrange it - the Genesis is the only other car I am even considering at this point. I'd say odds are 95% in favour of the Tobaru though.

[MTD]

We Canadians only get one version of the V6 though... The most expensive one, the GT, which is the same as the US Track. Fully, fully loaded, 6mt or auto.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by MTD

We Canadians only get one version of the V6 though... The most expensive one, the GT, which is the same as the US Track. Fully, fully loaded, 6mt or auto.

Have you checked out the markup on the V6? No wonder they are only selling one model, it's far too expensive for most people to stomach.

[MTD]

Track/GT is only about $3k more in Canada then in the US. Overall, it's only $500 more then last years version. I don't have a problem with the price. Hyundais CDN vs US prices are pretty close compared to most other companies.

[pastuch]

Originally Posted by MTD

Track/GT is only about $3k more in Canada then in the US. Overall, it's only $500 more then last years version. I don't have a problem with the price. Hyundais CDN vs US prices are pretty close compared to most other companies.

It's even better than it looks. If you pay cash they will throw a $2500 to $4000 manufacturers rebate at you. You can get even more by using a carcostcanada or carsaver.ca report to get the car at $500 above invoice. I love Hyundai Canada. Scion won't go below invoice and they won't do cash rebates but their Canadian markup is really low compared to most other manufacturers.

Subaru on the other hand, worst markups in Canada. 30% markup over the USA is a fucking joke. Whoever runs their Canadian business unit can suck my ****.

[PACMAN]

What are your thoughts on a used 2010 2.0T premium model in stick for 22K (canadian)? It would be certified, so that would mean warranty until 2015 or 2016 depending on when car was bought. (it was afterall the first year it came out and this worries me a bit)

alternatively, what do you think I could get the 2013 2.0T premium for if I paid cash and did carcostcanada)?

Throw me some insight!

[coop3422]

Originally Posted by pastuch

Subaru on the other hand, worst markups in Canada. 30% markup over the USA is a fucking joke. Whoever runs their Canadian business unit can suck my ****.

This. If I could have got an 11' WRX new for the price they are in the states, I'd of got one instead of MY07. I love my car though. I'll test drive a BRZ and 2013 2.0t gen coupe this spring. But I'll prob throw $2500 at my car, go stage 2 and be happier when the snow falls . It's a blast to drive all year round, stage 2 adds a lot of punch (60hp/85tq or so)

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by pastuch

It's even better than it looks. If you pay cash they will throw a $2500 to $4000 manufacturers rebate at you. You can get even more by using a carcostcanada or carsaver.ca report to get the car at $500 above invoice. I love Hyundai Canada. Scion won't go below invoice and they won't do cash rebates but their Canadian markup is really low compared to most other manufacturers.

I doubt they will be throwing big rebates at the brand new 2013 GCs for at least a year. And the price differential on the top-line V6 is $4k not $3k. I have nothing against Hyundai, have been reasonably happy with my first-gen Tib, but I'd think twice before dropping $36,999 on a GC - so much else you can get for that money. 2.0 R-Spec looks like the better deal.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

I doubt they will be throwing big rebates at the brand new 2013 GCs for at least a year. And the price differential on the top-line V6 is $4k not $3k. I have nothing against Hyundai, have been reasonably happy with my first-gen Tib, but I'd think twice before dropping $36,999 on a GC - so much else you can get for that money. 2.0 R-Spec looks like the better deal.

Some people would rather not have a turbo and have better sound,smoothness, and great power out the box. I would never consider a turbocharged anything for fear of laggy feel and possible reliability issues with that extra piece added to the engine(BMW is notorious for turbo issues). I also feel the Genesis Coupe was best designed for a V6 and not a I4 or V8.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by pastuch

It's even better than it looks. If you pay cash they will throw a $2500 to $4000 manufacturers rebate at you. You can get even more by using a carcostcanada or carsaver.ca report to get the car at $500 above invoice. I love Hyundai Canada. Scion won't go below invoice and they won't do cash rebates but their Canadian markup is really low compared to most other manufacturers.

Subaru on the other hand, worst markups in Canada. 30% markup over the USA is a fucking joke. Whoever runs their Canadian business unit can suck my ****.

[dsgerbc]

Originally Posted by pastuch

Subaru on the other hand, worst markups in Canada. 30% markup over the USA is a fucking joke. Whoever runs their Canadian business unit can suck my ****.

You are free to find a job down south and move.

[2Cool]

I have been test driving vehicles as I wait to drive the FRS, just to make sure it is what I ultimately want.

So I drove a 2.0t GC as well as an optioned out 3.8 Track package. I also drove a 370Z touring.

The 2.0t GC was crying out for a tune to fix Hyundai's craptastic boost taper as RPM increases, as well as the stutter on shift, all seemingly designed to save wear and tear on the clutch and transmission. Otherwise it was fun, handled nice, but was squishy and had body roll. THis was a regular 2.0t, no R package.

The 3.8 was a totally different animal. The interior was very very nice. IT was a paddle shift auto, seemed sluggish until I put it in sport mode. Then it was much much more fun. Tons of torque, very good handling, overall a joy to drive. Not sure how I would like it for track days or autocross though as it still felt big.

The back seat had no problem holding the 6' salesman, though his hair was up against the sloping roof. Definitely a lot of room, which was great for a dailie, but added to the heavy feel for any performance fun.

So very nice, but a non-starter for me to trade out of my current ride.