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Old 03-21-2012, 06:07 PM   #169
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I am with you, if it comes with bespoke..I am ok with $24,200. if not the pricing it too high. They will not sell this car too well. Especially if Subaru is only $1000 more and you get HIDS and a "Real" Nav. The bespoke does not have a "Real" Nav system. It just integrates with the internet on your phone so you can get nav from your phone. Scion should not be greedy and should include the bespoke as standard.
Agreed. The price is fine if it includes bespoke.

Otherwise a bit higher than I would like (although I would still get it unless the BRZ comes in at the same price).
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:08 PM   #170
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If it comes to that, I'll keep to the older Toyotas and keep rebuilding/restoring. Die hard.

Edit: oh and keep messaging Toyota daily till they do release a sports car under their brand again, even if they don't.

I doubt they will. I bet the next Supra will be a Scion.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:10 PM   #171
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Agreed. The price is fine if it includes bespoke.

Otherwise a bit higher than I would like (although I would still get it unless the BRZ comes in at the same price).
Fingers crossed bro!

I think bespoke will be standard. I was only off by like $1200 on the pricing..hehe!

Since the car is not coming out till June, maybe there will be more standard equipment surprises?
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I doubt they will. I bet the next Supra will be a Scion.
x2!!

LOL what a boring first post for me
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:13 PM   #173
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I've seen them both up close at the auto show. The FR-S also looks waaaaaayyy better in person.
It does, except for the headlights. All Scion had to do was include the HIDs or at least make them an option. I just think the base headlights look cheap.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:16 PM   #174
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x2!!

LOL what a boring first post for me
You good bro! Welcome!

It sounds good...Scion Supra!

But you know Toyota will call it the Supra everywhere else in the world and Scion will call it the Scion SRS (Supra Reardrive Sport)

LMAO!
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:16 PM   #175
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It's not how much it costs, it's the competition when you start getting into the high 20s..low 30s. A 370z for 30 dollars more per month, a proven engine, and 100 more hp? Yes plz. But if it's priced at 24, that's 90 per month less than 370. Which isn't marginal. It's also about what you get for the money. Value. I just saw a 370 for 29k, with HIDs, stupid power, proven car.. brand new. Why would you drop 28-29 on a loaded 86? It stops being justifiable after 26-27k imho
This^
Whats a extra 10-30 dollars for a better car. Most of the public will be buying it under credit and monthly payments not cash straight out the door.
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Fingers crossed bro!

I think bespoke will be standard. I was only off by like $1200 on the pricing..hehe!

Since the car is not coming out till June, maybe there will be more standard equipment surprises?
why would bespoke make it worth it? Most standard car systems even "premium" ones suck in comparison to a 200-300 dollar aftermarket speakers/navs.
give me 1k and take out the stupid audio.

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This is realistic guys. Mazda sells the Miata starting at 23.5k and this is a bigger and more technologically advanced car; not to mention limited production ATM. And Hyundai starts at the same 24.2k which will make them direct competitors. Given that, there's no way they'd lower it below 24k.
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I doubt they will. I bet the next Supra will be a Scion.
I hope that name never falls under Scion... if it does.... well... I don't want to think about it. Things would be done that would end my life as I know it.
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This is realistic guys. Mazda sells the Miata starting at 23.5k and this is a bigger and more technologically advanced car; not to mention limited production ATM. And Hyundai starts at the same 24.2k which will make them direct competitors. Given that, there's no way they'd lower it below 24k.
Correct. This car was never going to be 22-23k, that was just forum wishful thinking. I think the price is reasonable and inline with realistic expectations.
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Correct. This car was never going to be 22-23k, that was just forum wishful thinking. I think the price is reasonable and inline with realistic expectations.
Face it. It is still a bit overpriced but we still don't know what is standard. We will know tomorrow.

It's actually almost $25k after you add in the delivery. the FR-S pricing is about $1000 higher than it should be. They will sell the cars, but the sales will drop off after a few months. We already got lots of deserters on this forum and pretty much everybody here are die hard FT86 enthusiast.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:33 PM   #181
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I hope that name never falls under Scion... if it does.... well... I don't want to think about it. Things would be done that would end my life as I know it.
You would really kill yourself? You're the funniest guy in this forum.
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I've imported multiple RHD cars and driven a couple of the GT4-WRC of yore. They were awesome, but sports cars from Toyota have been dead for over 15 years in North America. Now they finally release a new car that you are obviously very interested in but the badge is wrong so you're not going to buy it. How does that make any sense?

Ask yourself honestly: "Will Toyota ever release another sports car in North America under the Toyota badge?"

I'll be shocked if they do, could drive away the soccer moms in their Camrys.
On the inverse of that, what they're doing by cutting out Toyota sports cars is driving away people such as myself. What's wrong with catering to multiple market segments/demographics with different vehicles in the same company? Most of the other car companies manage to pull that off, as did Toyota in the past. Why can't they do it now?

I believe Akio Toyoda said this car was supposed to revive that aspect of Toyota, kind of hard to do that as a Scion.
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