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Old 01-29-2014, 12:37 PM   #169
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Injectors will be on order in the next day, then just waiting on the flex fuel, and i'll be hitting you up to make an appointment Actually screw it, i'm going to PM you right now
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Guys,

I'm stocking up on a bunch of mods/accessories from group buys, then gonna bring the whole shebang over to you guys to install for me.

Was hoping for thoughts on the Beatrush Strut Bar:
http://www.kamispeed.com/Beatrush-Fr...s86400-fta.htm

For non-track driving, is it still worth having? Is this strut bar a good one, do you recommend a different maker?

Thanks!
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:21 PM   #173
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Guys,

I'm stocking up on a bunch of mods/accessories from group buys, then gonna bring the whole shebang over to you guys to install for me.

Was hoping for thoughts on the Beatrush Strut Bar:
http://www.kamispeed.com/Beatrush-Fr...s86400-fta.htm

For non-track driving, is it still worth having? Is this strut bar a good one, do you recommend a different maker?

Thanks!
Strut bars are really user preference. One is not much better than the other so pic the one that best fits the color/theme of your car.

Let me know if you are looking for any other parts. Send me a PM and Ill see if I could get them for you. That way i can help with install prices.
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Strut bars are really user preference. One is not much better than the other so pic the one that best fits the color/theme of your car.
Good to know, thank you. What about the performance aspect? Still worth having for non-track driving? Or is it overkill that would probably need adjustment to the suspension to get it right for street driving?

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Old 01-29-2014, 03:58 PM   #177
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Good to know, thank you. What about the performance aspect? Still worth having for non-track driving? Or is it overkill that would probably need adjustment to the suspension to get it right for street driving?

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Initial turn in on a corner might feel more planted. It is nothing major in difference really. the car's chassis is pretty stiff to begin with. They make most different on old cars but on new cars could also help prevent flex as you drive it more thus reducing the possibility of squeaks and rattles.
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prime motoring is great just got an n1 installed there easy quick and a great price!
everyone should check it out!
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Guys,

I'm stocking up on a bunch of mods/accessories from group buys, then gonna bring the whole shebang over to you guys to install for me.

Was hoping for thoughts on the Beatrush Strut Bar:
http://www.kamispeed.com/Beatrush-Fr...s86400-fta.htm

For non-track driving, is it still worth having? Is this strut bar a good one, do you recommend a different maker?

Thanks!
The beatrush strut bar is a hinged design... It wont really do anything at all, since it will move with each strut as the car flexes. It pretty much is just bling. Solid bars actually function... but it wont be noticeable to most. I only noticed a difference from mine for turn in after I had put coilovers and sticky tires on.

Some people will say OMG IT IS NIGHT AND DAY... that's bullshit. Some will say it does jack....that's true to a certain extent. The gain (from a solid bar) is minimal. If you're just daily driving, don't get it unless you want bling. If you want a hair of performance, get a solid bar design, not hinged
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The beatrush strut bar is a hinged design... It wont really do anything at all, since it will move with each strut as the car flexes. It pretty much is just bling. Solid bars actually function... but it wont be noticeable to most. I only noticed a difference from mine for turn in after I had put coilovers and sticky tires on.

Some people will say OMG IT IS NIGHT AND DAY... that's bullshit. Some will say it does jack....that's true to a certain extent. The gain (from a solid bar) is minimal. If you're just daily driving, don't get it unless you want bling. If you want a hair of performance, get a solid bar design, not hinged
What about the STI "flexible tower bar/strut" that's sold on Japanparts for like $400?

Are they worth the price?

Or any other struts/bars that work well?
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What about the STI "flexible tower bar/strut" that's sold on Japanparts for like $400?

Are they worth the price?

Or any other struts/bars that work well?
@Namuna

OK, I've done a little more research. The STI bar has a ball joint (or ball and socket?) in the middle. As such, like a hinged design (cusco, beatrush, others like that), strut towers can still move in the vertical direction (read: moving with the shock to somewhat "absorb" a bump). They offer about the same stiffness and rigidity in the horizontal directions (struts moving towards each other). However, the hinged designs can allow a little more angular motion (along the hinge).

Rigid bars don't have that vertical movement. They are a little more "race" oriented, if that helps to describe it, since they tie the struts together even more (but still not as much as a sway bar). They are slightly more effective, but they debatably will give a harsher ride.

Our cars have a stiff chassis to begin with, so any gain is minimal, really. Some conditions/instances allow the strut bars to be felt, but most don't.

FT-86 Speedfactory, GTSpec, Hotchkins, and I think Password JDM offer rigid bars. Personally, I have the FT86 speedfactory bar. My beliefs are that these bars complement tires and suspension mods. On their own, they don't do much. Stock, or on all seasons, there will be more body roll, and the tires will have more "give" (sidewall flex, less grip), so that rolling and sliding effect will mask the bar.

Disclaimer: I'm not studying dynamic systems. That's not my area of expertise. I've only studied static systems and deal more with ergonomics, physiology, and manufacturing systems. lol. I'm just basing it off of what I have read in the past, personal experience, and common sense from physics. This isn't an entirely correct answer, but it should at least give you a better idea.
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