Spec Twin?

[k3v]

There was a loose sealed koni strut next to the SSC car at Lincoln. I took a picture of the seal.

[Cueman]

Originally Posted by k3v

There was a loose sealed koni strut next to the SSC car at Lincoln. I took a couple pictures of the seal.

I think blue question marks are a questionable upgrade from red x's.

[Cueman]

Let's do this though. I trust the SCCA will come around on oil coolers.

From the official Tire Rack PDF...https://www.tirerack.com/images/pdf/scca-ssc-rules.pdf

O.E. components or components specifically listed in the Stage 1 and Stage 2 Packages below may be used. For components not specifically listed in the Stage 1 or 2 Packages, the Solo Street Category allowances apply. Vehicles will be allowed to be “under prepared” without all allowed modifications being installed.

So for clarification... the CS street eligible TRD springs and sway bars are thus eligible for the class provided they are paired with either OE struts, or sealed Koni's yes?

There is also zero mention of Street class rules being in play. I.E. catback exhausts, air filters, brake pads.

Thoughts?

I'm thinking I'm going to put my car in the class immediately just for kicks... even if on OEM dampers.

[k3v]

Originally Posted by Cueman

I think blue question marks are a questionable upgrade from red x's.

Are you trying to say you can't see the pictures?

[M0nk3y]

Originally Posted by Cueman

Let's do this though. I trust the SCCA will come around on oil coolers.



From the official Tire Rack PDF...https://www.tirerack.com/images/pdf/scca-ssc-rules.pdf

Oh boy, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.



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[Cueman]

Originally Posted by k3v

Are you trying to say you can't see the pictures?

They don't work for me.

[k3v]

Originally Posted by Cueman

They don't work for me.

How about now?

[Twinz]

Originally Posted by Cueman

Let's do this though. I trust the SCCA will come around on oil coolers.

From the official Tire Rack PDF...https://www.tirerack.com/images/pdf/scca-ssc-rules.pdf



So for clarification... the CS street eligible TRD springs and sway bars are thus eligible for the class provided they are paired with either OE struts, or sealed Koni's yes?

There is also zero mention of Street class rules being in play. I.E. catback exhausts, air filters, brake pads.

Thoughts?

I'm thinking I'm going to put my car in the class immediately just for kicks... even if on OEM dampers.

I asked about my TRD stuff and they do not intend to have them in the class with TRD parts. Since I asked, they will probably be sure to make this clear at some point. Since I have to replace the shocks either way, (and that's most of the work) I might as well do the whole package.

[Jshreiner]

From tire rack pdf

O.E. components or components speci cally listed in the Stage 1 and Stage 2 Packages below may be used. For components not speci cally listed in the Stage 1 or 2 Packages, the Solo Street Category allowances apply. Vehicles will be allowed to be “under prepared” without all allowed modi cations being installed.

My understanding is like everyone else spec parts or stock if listed. So it's gonna be stock springs or eibachs springs. Exhaust airfilter swaybar endlinks and other usual street class mods will be allowed. I also feel that it will be that way with the wheels as well. It will be 17x8 17lbs wheels or the stock unless they split cars in stage 1 and 2. Maybe then street class rules might apply to cars in stage 1 since no spec wheel is listed. That is all assumption

[Open Loop]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

$3,119.82 for a full prep, priced with TRMotorsport FF10 wheels (wheel specs were definitely picked to make this the most attractive wheel for SSC) and Nexen Sur4G (I'm guessing one of the top considerations for the spec tire). Not bad at all.

Time to sell my Konis, Strano bar (hate it anyway), and Buddy Clubs. Also, to ask for TireRack gift cards for Christmas. lol

We have a very similar setup, but I really like my Strano bar. I love my DS setup and it is one of the things that is making me question whether to make the switch to SSC, but I am 95% sure I will make the switch. Per our local region's chat room it sounds like we will have very good local participation which makes this an easier decision for me. I will keep my Strano bar and the stock suspension components so that I can switch back.


It's also nice to see new membership in the SCCA as a result of this.

[ApexEight]

Quick DS questions: why does it seem like people either love or hate their Strano front bars? Also, is it ok to use one with stock end links? I have a used one ready to install and may want to stay in DS but am second guessing installing it if it's not a good front bar.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by ApexEight

Quick DS questions: why does it seem like people either love or hate their Strano front bars? Also, is it ok to use one with stock end links? I have a used one ready to install and may want to stay in DS but am second guessing installing it if it's not a good front bar.

It depends on driving style as the strano bar is pretty mild, some people want stiffer, some people are happy, some might even want a stiffer rear instead, there's nothing wrong with the bar, bolt it up and try it out. The experiment is absolutely worth it for the knowledge no matter what you end up with, there's rarely a true right or wrong in autox, if it works for you then it works, but you'll never know for real if some guy on the internet tells you something. Part of the fun should be experimenting with possibilities and tweaking the car, a sway bar is a great place to start trying things out.

Stock end links should not post a problem.

Edit: you should be learning something at every event, don't shut your brain off, the day you try the bar is the day you find out "how does this car feel when I go stiffer on the front end?" Which will come in handy with the adjustable eibach bar.

[why?]

Originally Posted by cjd

Hello SM, we have another car modified without attention to the rules... Could you use some trophy padding?

Go play. Hope no one properly prepped shows up, and talk to the competitors in... well, nowhere really, that's a bunch of odd mods. Should be legal in SM still.

Don't care about the rules really, was just wondering. Most of the autocross in my area are 2 or 3 hours away one way, so I just don't go. Was trying to see if this was an interesting way to make it worthwhile. At this point there is zero chance I would be competitive even with the right rules in the right class, I just don't have experience.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by why?

Don't care about the rules really, was just wondering. Most of the autocross in my area are 2 or 3 hours away one way, so I just don't go. Was trying to see if this was an interesting way to make it worthwhile. At this point there is zero chance I would be competitive even with the right rules in the right class, I just don't have experience.

Everybody sucks until they practice their nuts off, won't matter what class you're in or if your car is the perfect championship winning car, hell show up in a wicked fast car and the first time you'll probably be beat by stock Miatas and MR-S. People do this for years and still suck, I'm closing out year three and I know if you put a top driver in my car after I've spent 10 runs trying to figure out the course he'd probably beat me the first time he ever touched my car by a wide margin.

I drive about an hour and a half one way to do this. Most people do. Too many people go spend tens of thousands of dollars on sports cars and never ever spin them out, it's a shame.

Edit: Go once, and make sure you ride along in someone else's car, it's too easy to go out and turn a few slow laps think 'this is lame' and go home and never come back. Experiencing a car driven on and over the edge is awesome, and you have all the tools to go do that. And I'd suggest skipping a ride along in some big fast kickass car like a Corvette or GT3, find the guy turning quick times in an E30/E36 or '80s Civic or NA/NB Miata so you're not distracted by the raw speed and horsepower bought by money and really feel what it means to drive something 'slow' at 11/10ths. Sorry I'm all hyped because I had a fun local autox yesterday.