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SixSpeed · 12-06-2012, 11:01 PM

One More question to Tada-San:

Since Toyota has a joint share in Subaru (Hence these wonderful cars you've brought us), Any chance for a World Rally Blue or Sonic Blue option on the FR-S/86/GT86?

sal · 12-06-2012, 11:44 PM

What do you think is the future of the sports car?

Grip Ronin · 12-06-2012, 11:49 PM

why do we have this torque dip and what is the most efficient way to increase power without forced induction?

ahausheer · 12-07-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Grip Ronin

why do we have this torque dip and what is the most efficient way to increase power without forced induction?

Id like to second this. Perhaps he can comment on the peak/dip/peak nature of the torque curve.

FRSjeff · 12-07-2012, 12:53 AM

I want to first say I love the way this car drives, feels and looks!

I do have some questions for both Tada-San AND Scion/Toyota regarding the quality/reliability of my FR-S:

1- Why did at least a handful of models have this "check engine light" issue? This is really not very good "Toyota Quality;" would you agree?
Mine is one of these that was affected; it was remedied with a new ECU, but, I'm concerned about its long term reliability and driving satisfaction; so far, I'm not really satisfied as it still idles strange (dipping and somewhat shaky, some of the time.) Is a permanent fix coming to give me confidence that this car can and will run SMOOTHLY for years to come?

2- Another quality issue is the very annoying "popping/crackle" sound from the rear. It's also kind of embarrassing when my passengers ask "what's the weird sound back there?" Subaru has a TSB addressing the issue, Scion/Toyota does NOT. Is Scion/Toyota going to very soon fix this noisy problem in my car? I really hope so!

3- My third concern is probably more directed to just Scion. Is there going to soon be a SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED update for the BeSpoke iPhone app for the "premium" stereo unit that I paid an extra $845 for??

This car would be nearly perfect if these issues were fixed.

Thank you for your consideration!

Bristecom · 12-07-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SubieNate

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that that interior was never part of Tada-san's vision for the 86 and more a product of a separate team that takes care of concept car creation.

Nathan

Yeah, good point. The teams that create the concepts are often so far out from what the company actually has in store for production. LOL

Grishbok · 12-07-2012, 02:55 AM

1. Can i get his autograph?

2. can i please get his autograph?

3. seriously, can i get his autograph? I would do just about anything to get an autographed dash trim piece from him, but id be happy with just the autograph!

switchlanez · 12-07-2012, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok

1. Can i get his autograph?

2. can i please get his autograph?

3. seriously, can i get his autograph? I would do just about anything to get an autographed dash trim piece from him, but id be happy with just the autograph!

He would if you gave him something to sign. I guess you've seen this?

"86... Tada" as if it were magic lol

Grishbok · 12-07-2012, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez

He would if you gave him something to sign. I guess you've seen this?

"86... Tada" as if it were magic lol

Id kill for that, no method to get it to him though.

switchlanez · 12-07-2012, 03:35 AM

^It's possible that someone can vectorize that signature and turn it into a decal. Not I cuz I dunno how... but somebody... and maybe we'd need to ask for Tada-san's permission. And whaddya know... that's exactly what this thread is for. How convenient!

switchlanez · 12-07-2012, 03:58 AM

More question for Tada-san:

1] I think I've seen spy pics of a MkIV Supra (N/A?) alongside the FT-86 prototype being tested in Germany. I also think I saw a Cayman, not sure if it was base, S, or R. What were the specific makes/models/years/trims of all the different cars used during benchmark testing?

2] I understand this car's suspension was tuned for different regions/environments of the world. For example, the stiffness/spring rate specs of the JDM 86 springs/struts are different than that of the FR-S in the US. Is the JDM BRZ suspension slightly different compared to the USDM BRZ suspension? How many different sets of part numbers exist among the BRZ/86/GT 86/FR-S suspensions around the world and what regions is each suspension set available in?

3] Who developed the exhaust at the 1:20 mark in this video (

It is being marketed for the FR-S under TRD USA but it looks like this was tested by Europeans in Japan. Is it Borla? Many members on this forum think it is but I think that's a huge misconception.

AT6 · 12-07-2012, 09:16 AM

What is the potential max RPM can this engine takes?

ichitaka05 · 12-07-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez

He would if you gave him something to sign. I guess you've seen this?

"86... Tada" as if it were magic lol

It's true, he'll sign anything if you bring it to you. He's THAT nice person.

I also saw those photos & interesting to see that he changed his autograph. Da one I have is this.

This one, I got decent amount of 86 team & Scion reps signed
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& extra & just in case autograph

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admiralhonshu · 12-07-2012, 09:54 AM

Will there be an lighter version of the 86 that will encompass hybrid technology or just straight electrical, and a 2 seater removable targa type convertible will be available?

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Grishbok Volunteer Fire and Rescue Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Ambulance... sideways. Location: No. VA Posts: 546 Thanks: 97 Thanked 350 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	1. Can i get his autograph? 2. can i please get his autograph? 3. seriously, can i get his autograph? I would do just about anything to get an autographed dash trim piece from him, but id be happy with just the autograph! __________________ It's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow.

12-07-2012, 03:35 AM	#164
switchlanez Glorious BRZ Master Race Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Subaru Libird Location: Race Wars Posts: 3,645 Thanks: 1,050 Thanked 2,718 Times in 1,079 Posts Mentioned: 110 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^It's possible that someone can vectorize that signature and turn it into a decal. Not I cuz I dunno how... but somebody... and maybe we'd need to ask for Tada-san's permission. And whaddya know... that's exactly what this thread is for. How convenient! __________________ << BUILD THREAD >>

12-07-2012, 03:58 AM	#165
switchlanez Glorious BRZ Master Race Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Subaru Libird Location: Race Wars Posts: 3,645 Thanks: 1,050 Thanked 2,718 Times in 1,079 Posts Mentioned: 110 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	More question for Tada-san: 1] I think I've seen spy pics of a MkIV Supra (N/A?) alongside the FT-86 prototype being tested in Germany. I also think I saw a Cayman, not sure if it was base, S, or R. What were the specific makes/models/years/trims of all the different cars used during benchmark testing? 2] I understand this car's suspension was tuned for different regions/environments of the world. For example, the stiffness/spring rate specs of the JDM 86 springs/struts are different than that of the FR-S in the US. Is the JDM BRZ suspension slightly different compared to the USDM BRZ suspension? How many different sets of part numbers exist among the BRZ/86/GT 86/FR-S suspensions around the world and what regions is each suspension set available in? 3] Who developed the exhaust at the 1:20 mark in this video ( It is being marketed for the FR-S under TRD USA but it looks like this was tested by Europeans in Japan. Is it Borla? Many members on this forum think it is but I think that's a huge misconception. __________________ << BUILD THREAD >> Last edited by switchlanez; 12-07-2012 at 04:15 AM.

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