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Old 11-17-2013, 08:01 PM   #127
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:05 PM   #128
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That's why I get so pissed when Subaru fan boys try to take all the credit and say the car is all Subaru and that the FR-S/GT86 are rebadged subarus.


Look at the BRZ, looks NOTHING like part of the Subaru line up. It doesn't even have the Subaru corporate wing grill. Thank god.

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Much better
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:20 PM   #129
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That STi doesn't actually look too bad - I'm still reserving judgment on the regular wrx though.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:28 PM   #130
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Not bad but I still like my FR-S, thanks for sharing the sneak peak though
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:42 PM   #131
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now lets see them reverse their decision about the 5-door...
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:43 PM   #132
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The WRX and STI specs now announced, it makes me think a bit.

You see, the specs from these current models and the soon to be released one are quite similar. Perhaps Subaru is going back in time where in Japan they didn't focus on horsepower or torque but instead on the car as a whole it self. Good to see this.
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It unfortunately resembles a civic ... shmeeeeh ...
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:32 PM   #134
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So the new WRX has 268hp...that's pretty awesome. Now the main thing to do will be to wait and order their stock exhaust manifold+turbo and ecu and then bolt that up to the FR-S. Though I do wonder about the compression they are using. I would love to be able to use stock wrx parts. I feel like 268 would be ideal for this application.
The Legacy's FA20 DIT is 10.6:1, it might be the same with the WRX.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:51 PM   #135
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Not a ton of new information, but a few new pictures. Motortrend article.


Since its introduction in the U.S. in 2002, the Subaru WRX has been an enthusiast staple. Expectations couldn't be higher for the newest model, and Subaru gave us a taste of things to come earlier this year with the WRX concept. Now, the 2015 Subaru WRX has been fully revealed at the 2013 Los Angeles auto show, and things look promising for the successor to the famed rally special. The 2015 Subaru WRX is based on the current-gen Impreza sedan's body, and, as you might expect, features a similar profile. The WRX, however, gets a unique hood, rear doors, rear quarter panels, headlights, taillights, bumpers, and front fenders. Those fenders receive the characteristic flares, while the model's distinctive hood scoop is set more deeply to improve visibility. The front end vaguely resembles that of the concept, with the hexagonal grille jutting out past the headlights. Those headlights maintain the basic shape of the concept, but don't get the same wild, 3D LEDs. A C-shaped LED accent envelops the main lamps within the housing, which utilizes full LED low-beam lights on higher-trim models and halogens on others. Subaru says the front end look is meant to "evoke a raptor's stare."

Of course, you can't have a WRX without a turbocharged flat-four engine and a performance-oriented all-wheel-drive system, and the 2015 model delivers on both fronts. Subaru borrowed the turbocharged, direct-injected 2.0-liter boxer four-cylinder from the Forester XT, and employs a high 10.6:1 compression ratio, twin-scroll turbocharger, and the Subaru Dual Active Valve Control System. The engine gets different camshafts and higher-rate valve springs, among other upgrades unique to the WRX, to bring output to 268 hp and 258 lb-ft of torque, which peaks between 2000 and 5200 rpm. That represents an increase of 3 hp and 14 lb-ft of torque over the previous-gen model's turbo 2.5-liter. A six-speed manual transmission, the first-ever application in the WRX, is standard. All previous WRX models were available with five-speed manuals, and Subaru says the new transmission provides a wider ratio spread and features carbon synchronizers on first and second gears. In place of an automatic option is an available Sport Lineartronic CVT. As the WRX engine is related to that of the Forester turbo, a CVT makes sense from a logistical standpoint, but the choice may puzzle many enthusiasts as continuously variable transmissions aren't typically known for being sporty. To those doubters, Subaru says that the Sport Lineartronic CVT has been "engineered to enrich the performance driving experience," while maintaining the smooth, fuel-efficient characteristics the transmission type is known for. When in Sport Sharp mode, the CVT automatically shuffles through eight pre-selected stepped gear ratios, and the driver can choose from six- and eight-speed manual shifting modes using the steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters. CVT-equipped models also feature the Subaru Intelligent Drive system, which allows the driver to customize the driving experience by choosing from three modes, including Intelligent, Sport, and Sport Sharp. Each transmission gets its own version of Subaru's Symmetrical All-Wheel-Drive system. Manual-equipped models receive a viscous coupling locking center differential that splits torque 50:50 front and rear in normal driving conditions, and applies power to the wheel with the most traction when the Vehicle Dynamics Control system detects slippage. CVT models come exclusively with a Variable Torque Distribution (VTD) version of the all-wheel-drive system, which utilizes a planetary gear-type center differential and electronically controlled hydraulic transfer clutch to distribute torque. In most situations, the VTD splits torque 45:55 for a rear torque bias and better handling agility. The system constantly adjusts torque distribution based on the driving conditions and input from steering wheel angle, yaw, and lateral g-force sensors. The 2015 WRX rolls on a set of aerodynamically optimized 17-inch alloy wheels wrapped in 235/45R17-size Dunlop Sport SP Maxx RT high-performance tires. Electric power assist steering was used, and combined with the tires, sport-tuned suspension, and stiffer chassis compared to the outgoing WRX, the electric steering system yields response that Subaru says was benchmarked against some of the best-handling sports cars. The body features more high-tensile-strength steel than the previous model, and uses special stiffening elements. The improvements continue inside the new WRX's cabin, which is more spacious thanks to a wheelbase that's an inch longer than the outgoing model's. The dashboard is lower than before, and a higher seating H-point combined with lower door sills and doors that open wider contribute to easier ingress and egress. Almost 2 inches of legroom have been added in the rear, and the larger trunk also benefits from standard 60/40 split folding rear seats. Automatic climate control comes standard, while hands-free keyless entry, push-button start, heated front seats, a nine-speaker Harman/Kardon premium audio system, and navigation with Aha smartphone integration are available as options. Soft-touch materials are used in the dash, door trim, and center console armrest. A flat-bottom steering wheel comes wrapped in leather, and features audio and Bluetooth controls along with tilt and telescoping adjustment. Behind that is a dual-gauge cluster layout with a 3.5-inch central LCD screen, which can show oil level and selected gear. A new 4.3-inch LCD screen placed high and inset in the center stack can display a boost gauge, rearview camera feed, audio info, climate control settings, or VDC functions like traction control. Drivers can take in all this info from the comfort of the "Whiplash-reducing" front sport seats, which come standard covered in high-grip fabric but are available in leather. An eight-way power adjustable driver's seat is also available. The turbocharged, all-wheel-drive formula that has served the WRX well for more than 10 years appears to still be intact with the 2015 model, but we'll have to wait until we can drive it to see if it's a worthy successor -- and to find out if a CVT is an appropriate option for the performance car.
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:22 PM   #136
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I think it looks good, way better than the current model.
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:37 PM   #137
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Man... Still no photos of the rear Subaru? Are they ashamed of the back end or something. I think it looks good. Definitely not a terrible looking car, but I'm not amazed by it either. Interior looks much improved for sure.
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:47 PM   #138
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This car is a total fail. What is Suabru thinking? There is no progress. It is nothing that an Subaru Impreza with FA20 and Turbo. Lame. Look at the CLA 43 AMG and the upcoming RS3 Sedan? Sure they cost more, but they also offer more. Really disappointing to the level of BMW.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:50 PM   #140
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So all they did was give a new front fascia to the current Impreza?



Wow....innovative
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