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xyos · 07-05-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by frsinpa

The Genesis is great if you like to pick your cars based on raw performance per $ ratios, but I would never considering driving something like that as a daily driver. Both the exterior and exterior is extremely fugly compared to the FR-S and other popular sportscars too.

Surely you jest? You think the interior on the FRS is better than the Genesis Coupe...is this real life or have you just not actually seen the interior of the genesis...

I will say the overall exterior of the FRS/BRZ I like more, but I think the rear end of the Genesis beats the FRS/BRZ, it is also a smaller car so it looks a little better

ill86 · 07-05-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xyos

Surely you jest? You think the interior on the FRS is better than the Genesis Coupe...is this real life or have you just not actually seen the interior of the genesis...

I will say the overall exterior of the FRS/BRZ I like more, but I think the rear end of the Genesis beats the FRS/BRZ, it is also a smaller car so it looks a little better

Obviously. Or we would be on the Genesis forum...

frsinpa · 07-05-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xyos

Surely you jest? You think the interior on the FRS is better than the Genesis Coupe...is this real life or have you just not actually seen the interior of the genesis...

I will say the overall exterior of the FRS/BRZ I like more, but I think the rear end of the Genesis beats the FRS/BRZ, it is also a smaller car so it looks a little better

You have 10 total posts on this forum and pretty much all of them are troll attempts.... so yeah. I can't really take your opinions too seriously at this point. They do provide good entertainment though.

xyos · 07-05-2012, 02:19 PM

waiitt....so you guys really think the interior looks better??

I mean at least I can admit that the overall exterior of the FRS/BRZ beast the Genesis, but the interior is not even close, I want what you guys are drinking :happy0180::happy0180:

ABQautoxer · 07-05-2012, 02:30 PM

The 2013 Genesis Coupe interior is nicer. I've driven a 2013 3.8 Rspec and own a 2010 3.8 Track. The 2013's interior is a big improvement from the earlier GCs but the seats in the FRS/BRZ are better, the instrument cluster is personal preference (which I prefer the FRS), and the center controls for HVAC etc are definitely cheaper feeling/looking in the twins as well. However the twins don't have the stupid torque and mileage gauges which I've never understood the point of and are perfectly located where it would be difficult to use while driving down the road for hyper-miling. Each car has their strengths and Hyundai certainly has their weaknesses too. If you don't believe me go autocross one in bone stock form and see how that works out for you. The Genesis is more muscle car to the Twins Miata like character.

gaveup · 07-05-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xyos

Surely you jest? You think the interior on the FRS is better than the Genesis Coupe...is this real life or have you just not actually seen the interior of the genesis...

I will say the overall exterior of the FRS/BRZ I like more, but I think the rear end of the Genesis beats the FRS/BRZ, it is also a smaller car so it looks a little better

Get out of here with all that genesis talk. 350hp and blah blah blah. 350hp and still mostly running high 13's right? Yeah..race car. Are those cars even breaking 300whp on a dyno yet? (if you don't get what I am saying, they seem to be a little over rated in the power department...)

I see exactly where the OP is coming from. It's been said on this forum many of times how people would like it to have about 50hp more than what it has. Then, everyone comes crawling out of the woodwork saying the car is "perfect how it is", "made to handle and not straight line performance" and "OMG IT'S THE BEST IN THE TWISTYYYZ".

The FRS/BRZ is a "light" car, but really, it is't AS light as people are making it out to be. And yes, it would be nice to have a little bit more power

Everyone has their own opinion. I think the FRS/BRZ is a good car for the people that love it. It's not for people that want fast 0-60 or top end speed. It's more like a hardtop, slower s2000.

rapt · 07-06-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jesseps

So what that it is slow. It is a hell of a lot of fun. Plus means I will get less speeding tickets

*knock on wood*

^^This makes me laugh my last 2 cars were a 305 hp 1998 camaro z28 convertable and then a 405hp c5 z06 corvette, a few weeks ago I got my first speeding ticket in my life in my BRZ, I actually was pulling over before the cop hit his break lights. My wife gave me this look and I knew what it meant, I said don't even say it "I know I know"

jesseps · 07-06-2012, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rapt

^^This makes me laugh my last 2 cars were a 305 hp 1998 camaro z28 convertable and then a 405hp c5 z06 corvette, a few weeks ago I got my first speeding ticket in my life in my BRZ, I actually was pulling over before the cop hit his break lights. My wife gave me this look and I knew what it meant, I said don't even say it "I know I know"

Damn that sucks lol

Lancerawd · 07-07-2012, 05:57 PM

I wish the frs came with at least 350hp or something :/ especially for its price range. But honestly I think the car looks freaking badass!!!

titusdrake · 07-07-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lancerawd

I wish the frs came with at least 350hp or something :/ especially for its price range. But honestly I think the car looks freaking badass!!!

Wouldve been nice to have a supercharged/turbocharged equipped model from the get go. But in time there will be

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ABQautoxer · 07-07-2012, 06:19 PM

I just don't think it needs that kind of power. Just 50ft/lbs of torque would be huge or even completely dialing out the dip at 4k would help a ton.

rapt · 07-07-2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ABQautoxer

I just don't think it needs that kind of power. Just 50ft/lbs of torque would be huge or even completely dialing out the dip at 4k would help a ton.

^^^^ This.. is all it needs, I agree.

Tbomb 25 · 07-07-2012, 10:57 PM

^^^^ I agree with this maybe 225 HP and 200 ft lbs...

Minhtyfresh · 08-29-2012, 10:04 AM

Hmm.. Can i please have a show of hands for who bought this car for its amazing SPEED torque and hp?

Oh.. thats right, people buying this car aren't buying it for the numbers are they.. We know its slow. Thank you for the review though.

Would I be happier with more torque? Oh yes.. Do it need it? Nope.. at least not yet (;

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07-05-2012, 02:19 PM	#130
xyos Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track Location: New Hampshire Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	waiitt....so you guys really think the interior looks better?? I mean at least I can admit that the overall exterior of the FRS/BRZ beast the Genesis, but the interior is not even close, I want what you guys are drinking :happy0180::happy0180:

07-05-2012, 02:30 PM	#131
ABQautoxer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2021 Supra / 2022 Tundra Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 659 Thanks: 60 Thanked 197 Times in 141 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The 2013 Genesis Coupe interior is nicer. I've driven a 2013 3.8 Rspec and own a 2010 3.8 Track. The 2013's interior is a big improvement from the earlier GCs but the seats in the FRS/BRZ are better, the instrument cluster is personal preference (which I prefer the FRS), and the center controls for HVAC etc are definitely cheaper feeling/looking in the twins as well. However the twins don't have the stupid torque and mileage gauges which I've never understood the point of and are perfectly located where it would be difficult to use while driving down the road for hyper-miling. Each car has their strengths and Hyundai certainly has their weaknesses too. If you don't believe me go autocross one in bone stock form and see how that works out for you. The Genesis is more muscle car to the Twins Miata like character.

07-07-2012, 05:57 PM	#135
Lancerawd Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 03 Evolution VIII Location: Norco Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wish the frs came with at least 350hp or something :/ especially for its price range. But honestly I think the car looks freaking badass!!!

07-07-2012, 06:19 PM	#137
ABQautoxer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2021 Supra / 2022 Tundra Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 659 Thanks: 60 Thanked 197 Times in 141 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just don't think it needs that kind of power. Just 50ft/lbs of torque would be huge or even completely dialing out the dip at 4k would help a ton.

07-07-2012, 10:57 PM	#139
Tbomb 25 Balance over power... Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 13 Hot Lava Frs, 88 Supra Turbo Location: San Pedro,California Posts: 238 Thanks: 6 Thanked 38 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^^^ I agree with this maybe 225 HP and 200 ft lbs...

08-29-2012, 10:04 AM	#140
Minhtyfresh Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Whiteout fR-S Location: Windsor Posts: 98 Thanks: 6 Thanked 28 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hmm.. Can i please have a show of hands for who bought this car for its amazing SPEED torque and hp? Oh.. thats right, people buying this car aren't buying it for the numbers are they.. We know its slow. Thank you for the review though. Would I be happier with more torque? Oh yes.. Do it need it? Nope.. at least not yet (;

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