follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB

Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB Problems, issues, recalls, TSBs


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #15
BunnyRZed
Senior Member
 
BunnyRZed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: BRZ Limited [37J]
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 328
Thanks: 60
Thanked 135 Times in 87 Posts
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
In modern cars we have octane & knock sensors that can retard the timing in order to compensate for lower octane fuels. You'll lose a little performance but nothing to worry about. Just pump the correct octane next time you pump gas.
BunnyRZed is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to BunnyRZed For This Useful Post:
Bg8780 (05-13-2013), BRZerk (03-27-2014), FRiSson (05-06-2013), ftc~brz (03-27-2014), Guff (05-11-2013), King Tut (05-06-2013), Mickeyt86 (05-11-2013), Ryeong86 (05-11-2013), SkullWorks (05-06-2013), strat61caster (05-07-2013)
Old 05-06-2013, 10:51 AM   #16
DarkSunrise
Senior Member
 
DarkSunrise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S)
Location: USA
Posts: 5,795
Thanks: 2,171
Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts
Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by nabil_frs View Post
Hey guys so my dad accidentally put 87 instead of the premium 91 he only put 20$ so about 16L but i noticed a pinging noise more then usual and i asked him and he realized he put the wrong gas in the tanks half empty now but WHAT DO I DO!!!! HELPPPPPPPP
That pinging noise you hear is detonation, which is not good for your pistons.

If your tank is half empty, drive gently to the nearest gas station and fill it up with 93. Take it somewhat easy on that next tank until you can fill up with 93 again. Should be fine after that.
__________________
"Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time."

2022 BRZ Build
2013 FR-S Build
DarkSunrise is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to DarkSunrise For This Useful Post:
amram (03-31-2014)
Old 05-06-2013, 10:52 AM   #17
HunterGreene
Hail Magnet
 
HunterGreene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Firestorm FR-S: "Artemis"
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 4,578
Thanks: 3,386
Thanked 3,195 Times in 1,633 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by foxhu View Post
you should put a sign at your tank saying 91+ ONLY!
Already there

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcoden View Post
Mine came with a sticker in the fuel door that says to use premium. I don't know the exact wording but there is a sign that says to use higher octane already.
+1. To the OP--Assuming your father is apologetic about this, he owes you a tank of PREMIUM. The car will be fine, one tank of 87 won't make a difference in the long haul. Just drive the car like your grandparents for the remainder of this tank (no heavy acceleration, no revving of the engine, etc.). On the plus side, you may get slightly higher than average gas milage even with the regular gas.
HunterGreene is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to HunterGreene For This Useful Post:
amram (03-31-2014), ftc~brz (03-27-2014)
Old 05-06-2013, 11:04 AM   #18
NOHOME
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: RAVEN
Location: LONDON ONTARIO
Posts: 790
Thanks: 86
Thanked 793 Times in 344 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Most likely you have induced irreparable damage to the engine. Consider scrapping the car.


OK, sorry, could not keep a straight face...

Your car is fine. How are you even hearing a knock when the computer has sensors that will detect the first hint and then pull timing out of the curve?

I doubt that even running 87 octane long term would harm the engine; most likely just lose a few of the high load horsepower.
NOHOME is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2013, 11:22 AM   #19
King Tut
NASA SpecE30 Racer
 
King Tut's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2006 Honda S2000
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 7,279
Thanks: 607
Thanked 5,759 Times in 3,055 Posts
Mentioned: 274 Post(s)
Tagged: 10 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to King Tut
Fill the tank with 91 octane and don't freak out next time. As mentioned the car has a knock sensor that will retard timing when needed.
__________________
King Tut is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to King Tut For This Useful Post:
ftc~brz (03-27-2014)
Old 05-06-2013, 11:22 AM   #20
sierra
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: Skoda Yeti DSG diesel 4x4
Location: W. Australia
Posts: 1,203
Thanks: 336
Thanked 307 Times in 230 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
93+ is the recommended octane rating in the US.
91 can be used when it's not available, without detriment but it's going to lose power and can't be good long term because it's designed to run on 93 octane or higher.

87 would void the warranty and almost certainly cause engine damage.
sierra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2013, 11:55 AM   #21
HunterGreene
Hail Magnet
 
HunterGreene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Firestorm FR-S: "Artemis"
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 4,578
Thanks: 3,386
Thanked 3,195 Times in 1,633 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra View Post
93+ is the recommended octane rating in the US.
91 can be used when it's not available, without detriment but it's going to lose power and can't be good long term because it's designed to run on 93 octane or higher.

87 would void the warranty and almost certainly cause engine damage.
First part is right, your second statement is completely wrong. There have been numerous users on here who have had 87 in their initial tank from the dealer that have not shown any long-term effect. A single tank of 87 will not void your warranty, nor cause catastrophic engine damage.
HunterGreene is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to HunterGreene For This Useful Post:
andrew20195 (03-31-2014), Rampage (03-28-2014), strat61caster (05-07-2013)
Old 05-06-2013, 12:14 PM   #22
FT86Dubai
Senior Member
 
FT86Dubai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Toyota 86
Location: UAE-Dubai
Posts: 168
Thanks: 41
Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Just drive it gently, no throttle blipping or hard acceleration and prevent driving it in hot after noons. It'll be fine.
__________________
2013 Toyota 86 (Sold it and regretting)
FT86Dubai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2013, 01:05 PM   #23
FRiSson
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: FR-S MT
Location: New England
Posts: 1,081
Thanks: 118
Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Geez.... overreaction. Toyota knows that there are some times when you won't be able to get premium gas. Hence, the engine will react to detonation by retarding the spark.

Just think dilution. You have 89-90 in the tank now, since your father filled only half a tank. When it goes down to one quarter tankful, you can boost that to 91 by adding 93. Problem solved. Just go easy on the engine, particularly under load such as going up hills and you won't induce detonation. Relax.
FRiSson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2013, 01:12 PM   #24
7thgear
i'm sorry, what?
 
7thgear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: Canada
Location: I rock a beat harder than you can beat it with rocks
Posts: 4,399
Thanks: 357
Thanked 2,506 Times in 1,268 Posts
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra View Post
93+ is the recommended octane rating in the US.
91 can be used when it's not available, without detriment but it's going to lose power and can't be good long term because it's designed to run on 93 octane or higher.

87 would void the warranty and almost certainly cause engine damage.
Thanks, Cpt.Leaflet-Reader, but it's clear you haven't a clue how petrole engines work, particularly the electronics that control fuel and spark.

thanks for dropping by.
__________________
don't you think if I was wrong, I'd know it?
7thgear is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to 7thgear For This Useful Post:
CamryDS (05-06-2013), Gixxersixxerman (05-11-2013), schtebie (05-06-2013), Shneegle (05-08-2013), SkullWorks (05-06-2013)
Old 05-06-2013, 04:51 PM   #25
fistpoint
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: Supercharged Golf Cart
Location: Estados Unitos
Posts: 1,196
Thanks: 75
Thanked 364 Times in 206 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I bet you triple the US national debt that 99.9% of everyones vehicle here had its first tank of gas with 87 octane.

Dealers NEVER put the correct grade unless you happen to be standing right next to them when they fill it, and even then you might not be able to persuade them.
fistpoint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2013, 05:00 PM   #26
HunterGreene
Hail Magnet
 
HunterGreene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Firestorm FR-S: "Artemis"
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 4,578
Thanks: 3,386
Thanked 3,195 Times in 1,633 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fistpoint View Post
I bet you triple the US national debt that 99.9% of everyones vehicle here had its first tank of gas with 87 octane.

Dealers NEVER put the correct grade unless you happen to be standing right next to them when they fill it, and even then you might not be able to persuade them.
I was lucky, I had a sales lady that pays attention to the little sticker inside the fuel door. Either that, or she was just covering her ass. I was inclined to believe her.
HunterGreene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2013, 05:17 PM   #27
was385
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: MT WRB BRZ Limited, 2007 911s
Location: CT
Posts: 812
Thanks: 218
Thanked 381 Times in 181 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by nabil_frs View Post
Hey guys so my dad accidentally put 87 instead of the premium 91 he only put 20$ so about 16L but i noticed a pinging noise more then usual and i asked him and he realized he put the wrong gas in the tanks half empty now but WHAT DO I DO!!!! HELPPPPPPPP
Put in 93 and dilute out the lower octane gas. You'll be fine.
was385 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2013, 05:42 PM   #28
fistpoint
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: Supercharged Golf Cart
Location: Estados Unitos
Posts: 1,196
Thanks: 75
Thanked 364 Times in 206 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterGreene View Post
I was lucky, I had a sales lady that pays attention to the little sticker inside the fuel door. Either that, or she was just covering her ass. I was inclined to believe her.
I told the sales manager about the fuel requirement and he replied that they put 87 in ALL their cars, regardless of make or model.

I turned around and pointed to the Porsche 911 Turbo and Lexus LFA sitting 30 feet behind me...he replied: "those are the owners cars". I then replied: "and I bet you my new car he put the correct gas in them...".

Last edited by fistpoint; 05-06-2013 at 06:08 PM.
fistpoint is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to fistpoint For This Useful Post:
SirBrass (03-27-2014)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Downforce: you're doing it wrong. ATL BRZ Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting) 28 04-12-2013 01:31 AM
What's wrong with my HID kit? seven Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting) 17 11-28-2012 07:36 PM
am I doing something wrong? shiud Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 20 07-17-2012 05:21 PM
Was I in the wrong? D4ng3r Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] 18 06-15-2012 01:46 AM
Wrong Fuel Hawx AUSTRALIA 22 12-11-2011 06:08 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.