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Calum · 04-26-2013, 03:53 PM

^that!

TLRracer · 04-27-2013, 01:35 PM

I like Fortune Auto even more now!
Jenson May is cool

Jenson May · 04-27-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TLRracer

I like Fortune Auto even more now!
Jenson May is cool

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Adjsutability is definitely marketing. As is color. Check the thread in this forum with the title "who likes blue?" or some such nonsense. To me adjustability has always been overrated; yes you can adjust to the way you drive or fix something you don't like, but it adds a layer of complexity that I don't need. Perhaps if I knew more and competed more, but I've always thought a well damped shock with the proper spring to be better for my purposes. MANY adjustable shocks have so much cross-talk that adjusting the shock does NOTHING useful. We're trying to adjust a force here; if adjusting that force alters the way the shock responds to another force what exactly are you accomplishing? Nahmean?

Sad, but true.

Could not agree more!

Jenson May · 04-27-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ro_Ja

One of the techs who worked there mentioned to me that he found Öhlins shims to be much more consistent than Bilstein's.

This is very true, consistent shims are uber important when matching shocks and getting repeatable results. The Bilstein shims are perhaps made with a lower grade steel or manufactured differently. I am not really sure on that though as I am not a shim manufacturing expert lol. From my experience Ohlins makes some of the best shims in the industry.

We use Ohlins shims on all our 510 & Dreadnought assemblies. It just makes building the shocks easier and consistent. For example, you can purchase a lot of 500 Ohlins .38-36 shims (pictured). Before we use them a tech measures each of the shims with a digital caliper. Out of 500 shims, maybe 1 shim will not measure out perfectly to .38mm thickness and 36mm in Diameter.

I consider that very impressive considering that a difference in shim thickness of .01mm can make a impact on valving profiles.

The malleability of the Ohlins shims are also very consistent. Considering that the shims cover up the piston ports and eventually flex to let oil through the ports, shims are very crucial. They are even more crucial on shocks that are running lots of force and digressive as the shims flex more. If you look at some lesser quality shims, you will see different grains in the metal and that usually has an impact on consistency from one shock to the next since the shims do not flex the same.

Taking things one step further, if you look at some of the Taiwanese and even Japanese manufactured shims....well most are terrible. It is literally impossible to have a matched set of shocks. This is one of the main reasons why we stopped using Asian shims in our shocks for a few years now.

Calum · 04-28-2013, 07:32 AM

@Jenson May are you shocks end user rebuildable?

Jenson May · 04-28-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum

@Jenson May are you shocks end user rebuildable?

No they are not user rebuild-able.

Calum · 04-28-2013, 08:56 PM

Just curious as I don't know much (anything really) about your company and thought others may benefit from the information. In the same vein, are you able to offer custom valving and/or spring rates?

OrbitalEllipses · 04-28-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum

Just curious as I don't know much (anything really) about your company and thought others may benefit from the information. In the same vein, are you able to offer custom valving and/or spring rates?

510 and Dreadnought series shocks appear to be ONLY custom ordered.

http://www.fortune-auto.com/products.htm

Coheed · 04-28-2013, 10:24 PM

Mr. May, please keep talking.

Thank you, and carry on.

Staf00 · 04-29-2013, 03:28 AM

For comparison, are there any shock dynos of KW V3s?

smbstyle · 04-29-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

510 and Dreadnought series shocks appear to be ONLY custom ordered.

http://www.fortune-auto.com/products.htm

Wow, very tempting!!

OrbitalEllipses · 04-29-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Staf00

For comparison, are there any shock dynos of KW V3s?

KW is very evasive about their dynos. I don't think any end-user who has asked KW for a shock dyno has received one. That was last I heard a few years ago, things may have changed now.

Turdinator · 04-29-2013, 09:51 PM

Subscribed. Keep up the good info

Jenson May · 04-29-2013, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum

Just curious as I don't know much (anything really) about your company and thought others may benefit from the information. In the same vein, are you able to offer custom valving and/or spring rates?

Yes all Fortune shocks offer custom valving and spring rates, even the 500's

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