Scion FR-S / FT-86 / Subaru BRZ Specs and Options. 200hp / 151 lb-ft tq

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by old greg

Vegemite is way cheaper there.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

If you use 3.14159 for pi, that figure goes up by 1/2000 Aka, ~1998.

So it does!

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

lol, second instinct, I never pay attention in class :P I'm actually surprised, I haven't dealt with NUMBERS in forever. (you may know, real math has almost nothing to do with numbers)

i dont know about that. real math has everything to do with numbers. well not everything but alot.

[R_E_L]

base spec looks great. toyota did this right.

[arsenaljohn]

Originally Posted by fatoni

i dont know about that. real math has everything to do with numbers. well not everything but alot.

Take an ap physics/calculus class and you will realize math has very little to do with numbers

[TeckniX]

16 steelies? haha - Hachi will live on!

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by fatoni

i dont know about that. real math has everything to do with numbers. well not everything but alot.

Number theory, analysis, everything else is much more general. Number theory is actually a lot more about algebra (which doesn't mean symbolic manipulation fyi), than about "quantifyable" things. Algebra deals with structure, which really has nothing to do with "numbers". Topology is also completely removed from "numbers". Set theory/metamathematics/logic is even further removed.

[rmagic]

My only concern is the lack of torque. I had same problem with my track car mazda RX8. I would rather have less hp but more torque. I just hope the rigid chassis and the less weight of the car make up for the power.

[dante]

Originally Posted by TeckniX

16 steelies? haha - Hachi will live on!

I believe that the 16" steelies are like the stripped-out Spec tC they had a couple years back.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/10608306...kage-in-detail

[PuGZoR]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Aren't most things expensive in Australia compared to the rest of the world?

Not always. When it comes to cars though, we get well and truly shafted, almost as bad as Singapore.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by PuGZoR

Not always. When it comes to cars though, we get well and truly shafted, almost as bad as Singapore.

Cars. I know high end MTB and road bikes as well. I know for road bikes I hear of guys paying 50-100% more than I pay here in US.

[mockngbrd]

can i have a customize spec with A/C?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by mockngbrd

can i have a customize spec with A/C?

Nope, Custom ver don't come w ac

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by AudiTT

But that peak is at so f****n' high revs that it makes driving in town a nightmare compared to a turbo. It's pretty annoying (in a long term, at least) to rev the engine to it's max every time you wanna make some progress. At least i'm an adult and don't use public roads for racing so every trafficlights is not a startingrid for me. And every roundabout is not made for powerslides... But this car is still made for public roads, right?

Again, I disagree. IMO, you don't need much torque or power driving around town... when I originally got my MX5, I figured I'd boost it, but after a few months with it I realized it has decent-enough pull. I've never have any problem passing or keeping up in traffic (and contrary to what many assume about the MX5, it doesn't need to be constantly flogged).

Yes, you need to run through the gears, but that's part of the fun. Anyone who considers shifting a chore is going to be disappointed with the FT.

Originally Posted by AudiTT

I doubt that for example 1,6 liter motor with a turbo would've added much weight. Yes, turbo adds weight but smaller engine saves it.

I think something like Peugeot RCZ (probably not sold in the US) has would've been brilliant. 1,6 turbo 200hp, 275nm torque from 1700rpm. Efficient and doesn't have to be trashed like mad to keep up a decent pace.

You're right in that a 1.6T probably wouldn't add much mass, and the ~33% more torque would of course be nice. But it would also mean lag, cost, and complexity while having little or no increase in peak power.