FR-S vs BRZ

[SPEEDGOD]

Originally Posted by Red5

Personally, that sounds like a stupid reason not to buy a certain car. "I like almost everything about this car, but I don't like what it's badged, so I'm gonna go spend more money on an almost identical car made by the same people because its badged differently"


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Haha so true, I think people would go for the Toyota/Scion because of the history (AE86), both looks good just get whatever you like but don't get the BRZ and act like its the shit and better because it's the same car guys! LoL


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[jshadeck]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I know I have a Scion FR-S and thought to call it a toyota 86 would be presumptuous of me since it is different from the 86 trim.

When people ask me what kind of car it is I tell them it is the new scion fr-s but everywhere else it is the Toyota 86 (no need to confuse more with gt86) so I switched the badges.

I hope to be able to mod it to match the JDM spec as much as possible.

My reasoning has little to do with "brand snobbery" as much as liking to being JDM spec. If I cared a out snobbery I would not have switched my Infiniti M45 to Nissan Gloria spec, Nissan being a lower brand than Infiniti.

I have always preferred to go by the JDM name for cars like instead of calling my Infiniti M45 by it's us moniker I would badge it as a Nissan Gloria (if I didn't like it debadged so much).

So ull be detuning ur fr-s to have 3 less hp as the jdm 86 does? Lol i keed i keed

[BIGCUMBOY]

Basically I created this post to clarify both companies had part in this car. It's quite annoying when a Subaru fan-Toyota Hater (I'm a Subaru fan too) comes along and says, "It's a Subaru and not a Toyota" without any knowledge and history of the car. Rephrasing what others have said in this post, It's not to say Toyota is better or Subaru is better, bottom line, get whatever you like, debadge it to Scion FRS/Toyota GT86, just don't be snobby about it.

Like someone said, it's part of the same family, no part arguing (I'm guilty), be proud it's an awesome looking ride whether it's badged, Scion FR-S, Toyota GT86 or Subaru BRZ because it's the same car (just different trim) and all parties (Scion, Toyota, Subaru) needed this car whether it was to increase car sales, strengthen brand awareness/equity or add a new good looking RWR car to the car lineup, it was a great success.

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I'd like to point out that OP's language is heavily biased and favors (by giving extenive credit to) Toyota. Frankly, I don't give a damn. However, I get annoyed and like to point out when a person makes a logical argument that exhibits blatant bias.

Full disclosure: I bought a BRZ because I prefer the way it looks. I also prefer the Subaru brand to the Scion brand.

Edit: I made this post after reading only the first page of comments. Looks like there was a significant amount of controversy in this thread already. Feel free to disregard this post.

[SPEEDGOD]

Originally Posted by edward

I'd like to point out that OP's language is heavily biased and favors (by giving extenive credit to) Toyota. Frankly, I don't give a damn. However, I get annoyed and like to point out when a person makes a logical argument that exhibits blatant bias.

Full disclosure: I bought a BRZ because I prefer the way it looks. I also prefer the Subaru brand to the Scion brand.

Edit: I made this post after reading only the first page of comments. Looks like there was a significant amount of controversy in this thread already. Feel free to disregard this post.

Love this thread. One is bias and the other is bias and a hypocrite lol


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Originally Posted by SPEEDGOD

Love this thread. One is bias and the other is bias and a hypocrite lol

I'm not making an argument as to which manufacturer was responsible for what. I'm pointing out bias in one post (which appeared to me to be making an argument) and disclosing my own bias. Objective observation with disclosure. Therefore, I'm not a hypocrite.

Calling someone out on argumentative form doesn't make me a hypocrite, just a pedant

[BIGCUMBOY]

Originally Posted by edward

I'm not making an argument as to which manufacturer was responsible for what. I'm pointing out bias in one post (which appeared to me to be making an argument) and disclosing my own bias. Objective observation with disclosure. Therefore, I'm not a hypocrite.

Calling someone out on argumentative form doesn't make me a hypocrite, just a pedant

Ok I'm converted. It's a Subaru because it's made in a FHI/Subaru factory owned by Toyota!

Just like most products belong to CHINA because it says MADE IN CHINA! CHINA PRIDE! hhahaaa (although I'm Polish) There goes my ipod, iPhone, computer, steel parts, food, etc. Chinese people invented everything!

I call it the "Subaru logic" lol

[Brzetto]

6.1 vs 6.2 it doesn't matter if it's by an inch or a mile winning is winning.

[SPEEDGOD]

Basically if you get it at a Toyota dealership then it's a Toyota and if you get it at Subaru then it's a Subaru. End of story.


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[BRZPDX]

I believe there will be more and more differences with the twins once performance models come out. I think they want both to have a distinguished look, separated by TRD and STI.

I personally put STI parts on my BRZ, and I'm sure FR-S owners are leaning towards TRD parts over STI.

[BIGCUMBOY]

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

I believe there will be more and more differences with the twins once performance models come out. I think they want both to have a distinguished look, separated by TRD and STI.

I personally put STI parts on my BRZ, and I'm sure FR-S owners are leaning towards TRD parts over STI.

Yes most definitely. This car is definitely for moding. Some FR-S owners will want to "Subaru" it even more just for looks.

Just got to respect each other's ride that's all my saying. Some stupid punk at work was like "isn't that a Subaru?" No you idiot. Can't you see the Toyota sign? Like fucking do some research. When you have an iPhone or any apple product or most product do people say, "Isn't that a China product?" This stupid logic pisses me off. Facts people, FACTS! lol

[SPEEDGOD]

Originally Posted by BIGCUMBOY

Yes most definitely. This car is definitely for moding. Some FR-S owners will want to "Subaru" it even more just for looks.

Just got to respect each other's ride that's all my saying. Some stupid punk at work was like "isn't that a Subaru?" No you idiot. Can't you see the Toyota sign? Like fucking do some research. When you have an iPhone or any apple product or most product do people say, "Isn't that a China product?" This stupid logic pisses me off. Facts people, FACTS! lol

It's a Subaru.

[NorseLegend]

No, it's Scioyobaru. This thread is... Kinda pointless, it more or less comes in equal parts from both brands, and people that want to identify with one more then the other probably should have gotten something else. :shrug:

Why not just all join together, mod our cars, and move on?


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[Brzetto]

In the end the BRZ/FRS are the same car, one just has better amenities. What can I say, I love led lights.