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ft86Fan · 12-07-2012, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reeves

Mine's was a grey bottle with a grey cap.. new package design?

I guess

schtebie · 12-07-2012, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86Fan

Curious as to why your Pentosin bottle is gold while others I've seen are white with a blue cap. Any differences?

The bottle is the same as the other gray ones. The photo was just taken in less than ideal lighting. :happy0180:

Esoteric · 12-08-2012, 09:49 PM

Some are silver, some are white. I ordered 36 more this week and all were silver.

Most often, Pentosin's coolant still comes in white. All the MTF-2 gear oil I have sold in the past two years was silver bottles. I think it's going to be fine from any vendor.

If anyone has issues with the web store, just let me know, I can send a invoice by PayPal.

gmookher · 12-08-2012, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esoteric

Some are silver, some are white. I ordered 36 more this week and all were silver.

SOMEONE likes my advice it seems...

both silver and grey are legit bottles

Dave-ROR · 12-09-2012, 11:12 AM

About 1,500-2,000 miles so far on the Torco MTF, didn't change too much since the first day, when cold (~40s) it's fine just a little notchy but zero issues actually going into any of the gears. Once it's slightly warm or better (a few minutes of driving or cold temps of the 70s or more) it's perfectly fine, actually loses a little of the mechanical feel I enjoy. I'm not sure I'd want to go much thinner, might lose all of that mechanical feel

I'll try it for the next change though in 5k or so.

Boost_Junkie · 12-09-2012, 11:19 AM

Will and I are going to be going with Extra-S at our next oil change. I'll probably do Motul 300 in the rear as well.

Bluetib · 12-11-2012, 09:40 AM

Flushed OEM 2 weeks ago to Pentosin MTF2 and it is night and day
since then, best mod for the money you can do on a BRZ/FR-S.

Even with the coldest temperatures you can now do everything you
hoped for, make the original oil feel like Crisco shortening....

gmookher · 12-11-2012, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluetib

Flushed OEM 2 weeks ago to Pentosin MTF2 and it is night and day
since then, best mod for the money you can do on a BRZ/FR-S.

Even with the coldest temperatures you can now do everything you
hoped for, make the original oil feel like Crisco shortening....

Glad it worked for you!

Bluetib · 12-11-2012, 04:01 PM

It all started reading your first post about Pentosin MTF2, thanks a lot
Gmookher for your tip and please be sure i will promote your solution
as much i can.

gmookher · 12-11-2012, 04:38 PM

I don't work for Pentosin....just want the gearbox goodness to be something we all benefit

GoSharks · 12-12-2012, 07:03 PM

I am changing to Pentosin in the gearbox and Motul for the differential in the next few days. Thanks gmookher for your posts, I am anxious to feel the results.

Update: Had Pentosin and Motul installed along with Invidia q300 catback yesterday. Shifting is definitely better, shifting through the gates are noticeably smoother. Still some notchiness from 1st to 2nd but improved. Looking to get more miles in to form a better opinion. As for the exhaust, I went with the Ti tips, I like it. For sound, very close to stock.

ADebelius · 12-22-2012, 02:36 PM

I'm just confused. The owners manual specs a 75w-90 fluid, not a 75w-85 as mentioned. And the low end range for a 75w-90 fluid at temperature is ~13cst. The Pentosin is almost half that.

I realize the additive packs place a large role on how well it functions in the gear box, but given our gear box was designed to run quite thicker oil, I wonder how it fairs long term in hot/hard use, I feel the additives can only go so far to compensate for the lack of viscosity.

Anyone have some UOA on the Pentosin in our cars? (I realize that it works well in BMW's and other cars, it's what I used on my 335i. But those were designed for this viscosity fluid, unlike the FT86)

zooki · 12-22-2012, 05:39 PM

The owners manual also specs a fluid you can't get anywhere, even the dealer. The GL-3 is a spec no longer active, and the dealer can't get the factory oil. Try them. I just talked to my dealer, and they can't figure out how to get it. Funny. I put in the Pentosin a couple of weeks ago and it is definitely better. Very smooth.

gmookher · 12-22-2012, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADebelius

Anyone have some UOA on the Pentosin in our cars? (I realize that it works well in BMW's and other cars, it's what I used on my 335i. But those were designed for this viscosity fluid, unlike the FT86)

I will be doing Uoa when I hit about 20k miles, pointless before that on a tranny, even tho my Uoa will be off a FI car, even better for na guys.

12-09-2012, 11:12 AM	#201
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	About 1,500-2,000 miles so far on the Torco MTF, didn't change too much since the first day, when cold (~40s) it's fine just a little notchy but zero issues actually going into any of the gears. Once it's slightly warm or better (a few minutes of driving or cold temps of the 70s or more) it's perfectly fine, actually loses a little of the mechanical feel I enjoy. I'm not sure I'd want to go much thinner, might lose all of that mechanical feel I'll try it for the next change though in 5k or so. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

12-12-2012, 07:03 PM	#207
GoSharks Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: BRZ Limited, WRB, 6 MT Location: Saratoga, CA Posts: 82 Thanks: 35 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I am changing to Pentosin in the gearbox and Motul for the differential in the next few days. Thanks gmookher for your posts, I am anxious to feel the results. Update: Had Pentosin and Motul installed along with Invidia q300 catback yesterday. Shifting is definitely better, shifting through the gates are noticeably smoother. Still some notchiness from 1st to 2nd but improved. Looking to get more miles in to form a better opinion. As for the exhaust, I went with the Ti tips, I like it. For sound, very close to stock. Last edited by GoSharks; 12-22-2012 at 04:03 PM. Reason: updated

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12-08-2012, 09:49 PM	#199
Esoteric Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: FR-S\|(2)AE86\|TA22\|E30M3\|E36M3\|BPLeg Location: Philadelphia Posts: 172 Thanks: 10 Thanked 73 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Some are silver, some are white. I ordered 36 more this week and all were silver. Most often, Pentosin's coolant still comes in white. All the MTF-2 gear oil I have sold in the past two years was silver bottles. I think it's going to be fine from any vendor. If anyone has issues with the web store, just let me know, I can send a invoice by PayPal.

12-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#202
Boost_Junkie 3.141592654 Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Galaxy Blue BRZ Location: Tampa FL Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 38 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Will and I are going to be going with Extra-S at our next oil change. I'll probably do Motul 300 in the rear as well.

12-11-2012, 09:40 AM	#203
Bluetib Subaru product specialist Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: BRZ Sportech Location: Montreal Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Flushed OEM 2 weeks ago to Pentosin MTF2 and it is night and day since then, best mod for the money you can do on a BRZ/FR-S. Even with the coldest temperatures you can now do everything you hoped for, make the original oil feel like Crisco shortening....

12-11-2012, 04:01 PM	#205
Bluetib Subaru product specialist Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: BRZ Sportech Location: Montreal Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It all started reading your first post about Pentosin MTF2, thanks a lot Gmookher for your tip and please be sure i will promote your solution as much i can.

12-11-2012, 04:38 PM	#206
gmookher Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: VortechSC,BorlaEL,Perrin,GCRace Location: HighHeatHighAltitudeAZ,USA Posts: 2,254 Thanks: 458 Thanked 669 Times in 394 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I don't work for Pentosin....just want the gearbox goodness to be something we all benefit

12-22-2012, 02:36 PM	#208
ADebelius Taking Corners Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2014 FR-S Whiteout Monogram Location: New Mexico Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm just confused. The owners manual specs a 75w-90 fluid, not a 75w-85 as mentioned. And the low end range for a 75w-90 fluid at temperature is ~13cst. The Pentosin is almost half that. I realize the additive packs place a large role on how well it functions in the gear box, but given our gear box was designed to run quite thicker oil, I wonder how it fairs long term in hot/hard use, I feel the additives can only go so far to compensate for the lack of viscosity. Anyone have some UOA on the Pentosin in our cars? (I realize that it works well in BMW's and other cars, it's what I used on my 335i. But those were designed for this viscosity fluid, unlike the FT86)

12-22-2012, 05:39 PM	#209
zooki Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: waiting on a 2021... Location: Texas Posts: 770 Thanks: 190 Thanked 410 Times in 233 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The owners manual also specs a fluid you can't get anywhere, even the dealer. The GL-3 is a spec no longer active, and the dealer can't get the factory oil. Try them. I just talked to my dealer, and they can't figure out how to get it. Funny. I put in the Pentosin a couple of weeks ago and it is definitely better. Very smooth.

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