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Old 08-12-2023, 05:25 PM   #4341
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TIL first hand about "ice mode". Tried pedal dance for autox and it's real concerning when the abs goes haywire.

That sucks. I would think that would be more sketchy on an AutoX course with nothing really separating you from people and parked cars then cones.
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Old 08-12-2023, 05:27 PM   #4342
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What happened? How is the mode cleared? I've never had the opportunity but I'm curious.
Luckily I just overshot a tight apex. Basically I hit the brake over some bumps (~60mph) and the abs immediately switched on and wouldn't turn off until I let off the brake completely. I backed off a bit on that run after that so idk if there were any other effects. Turning off the car seemed to make everything normal for the next run.

This felt different than a normal abs event, as it immediately triggered abs as soon as started braking, can't remember if the bumps immediately preceded or was braking through them. Also, the abs pulsed faster but with less force than usual.

This was my first, and possibly last run with pedal dance.
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That sucks. I would think that would be more sketchy on an AutoX course with nothing really separating you from people and parked cars then cones.
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It really wasn't all that bad. The car still slowed, and there's an amount of runoff available. Still made the turn even, just blew the apex. I'd say it was about 2/3 to 3/4 of full braking force.

I have also found the load limit for the EPS as well, earlier in the season. The fabled EPS cut is real. Also happens when going over bumps while doing steering/braking. That's really scary in tight quarters because it can rip the wheel out of your hands if you aren't expecting it.
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:03 PM   #4344
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TIL first hand about "ice mode". Tried pedal dance for autox and it's real concerning when the abs goes haywire.
It's been a long time since I've read about pedal dance and pedal danced myself but I thought pd turned off ice mode.
Obviously not.
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Old 08-12-2023, 08:12 PM   #4345
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It really wasn't all that bad. The car still slowed, and there's an amount of runoff available. Still made the turn even, just blew the apex. I'd say it was about 2/3 to 3/4 of full braking force.

I have also found the load limit for the EPS as well, earlier in the season. The fabled EPS cut is real. Also happens when going over bumps while doing steering/braking. That's really scary in tight quarters because it can rip the wheel out of your hands if you aren't expecting it.
i just barely bumped against the EPS limit doing snow donuts a few times.

it was enough that i stopped and got out of the car to make sure that there wasn't something stuck in the front knuckles limiting the steering angle all of a sudden. after the second time, i realized i was hitting a vehicle system limitation, not a mechanical stop, and started taking it easier. but definitely disconcerting!
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Old 08-12-2023, 09:22 PM   #4346
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TIL first hand about "ice mode". Tried pedal dance for autox and it's real concerning when the abs goes haywire.
Scary as hell. I have never been able to make pedal dance work. Just random sudden total lack of brakes even with the pedal to the floor.
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Today I learned that I have been so distacted by what "they" call life that I've not posted on this site in an age..
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i just barely bumped against the EPS limit doing snow donuts a few times.

it was enough that i stopped and got out of the car to make sure that there wasn't something stuck in the front knuckles limiting the steering angle all of a sudden. after the second time, i realized i was hitting a vehicle system limitation, not a mechanical stop, and started taking it easier. but definitely disconcerting!
Now THAT is interesting. Was that with long push, or pedal dance? Playing around in the snow doesn't place any great load on the EPS motor. I wonder if it was some kind of ice mode for steering input.
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Well... I'm doubting my powers of distraction.. Already getting sucked back into what "they" call life..
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Well... I'm doubting my powers of distraction.. Already getting sucked back into what "they" call life..
Nothing wrong with testing the waters. Those experiences have helped me find greater satisfaction in following my own bliss.
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Today I learned that I have been so distacted by what "they" call life that I've not posted on this site in an age..
Funny that. I've spent a good part of the last year and a half thinking the same thing about the past 30 years.

I'm not sure where you are in your life, but hopefully this was a realization before 30 years slipped away.

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Ok, didn't learn, but today I was reminded there is a cabin air filter. I can't remember ever changing it. No wonder my fuel trims are off.
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