Canadian Stock Allocations

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Rustyoid

Realistically the computer generated ETAs are about 1 month behind.

Yes, Usually BRZ models are built ahead of the Toyota version

Don't you really mean the ETAs are about a month optimistic, that is, predicting arrival at the dealer a month ahead of what actually transpires? Or are they actually predicting arrival a month behind/late relative to actual delivery?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by justinczt

Whatever Toyota is doing isn’t working and needs to change.
As a customer it’s a very frustrating system and leaves people not knowing if they will ever get a car.

The Toyota system is not to blame for the current situation. It worked fine for the FRS and then the face lift and if this was a "normal" time it would have worked now as well.
The Gunma plant has been down for a total of 12 weeks in the last two years. This has a huge impact on the number of cars they can build and has messed up the plans completely. Normally they would have had most built and out already but that just can't happen.
Oh and the not knowing when or if you will get one is not restricted to the 86 or even just Toyota. My wife's Ascent we ordered in January arrived yesterday. My grandson still does not have a firm date for a Corolla hatch he ordered o March. My buddy is 8 months into waiting for a F150 and still has no idea when or if he will get it.
I would be frustrated as well but there is d1ck all that Toyota can do about it by changing their system.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by justinczt

Whatever Toyota is doing isn’t working and needs to change.
As a customer it’s a very frustrating system and leaves people not knowing if they will ever get a car.

as TCOAT said above...this is a worldwide problem affecting every manufacturer, not a Toyota specific problem. No one knows when things will get back to normal.

You either have to pick out something that happens to be on the lot, or you wait who knows how long until your specifically spec'd car is made and ready for you at the dealership.

[Ambassador Foolish]

I have a tangentially related question. I ordered a Trueno 86, and let's say that comes in before a person's who ordered before me, let's say halo white. Would they get first dibs due to order, or would I because it's a closer preference, or is it dealer specific?

[Petah78]

Originally Posted by Ambassador Foolish

I have a tangentially related question. I ordered a Trueno 86, and let's say that comes in before a person's who ordered before me, let's say halo white. Would they get first dibs due to order, or would I because it's a closer preference, or is it dealer specific?

I imagine that is a dealer specific.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Petah78

I imagine that is a dealer specific.

^This. Since the VIN is not formally attached to a name then it would be up to the dealer to decide who get's it.
In all fairness it really should go to whoever placed the order first (if they want it) regardless of what spec it was.

[CincyJohn]

Originally Posted by Ambassador Foolish

I have a tangentially related question. I ordered a Trueno 86, and let's say that comes in before a person's who ordered before me, let's say halo white. Would they get first dibs due to order, or would I because it's a closer preference, or is it dealer specific?

I imagine it all depends on the dealer. As noted 100 times or more on this thread, you don't really "order" a GR86. You put in a preference request (usually with some sort of deposit) and a dealer agrees to try to meet your request. All dealers vary in what that agreement looks like, whether it is in writing, what the final cost will be, etc., etc.,

You would like to think that a dealer who receives an allocation meeting your preference request would not offer that vehicle to someone in front of you in line with a different preference request, but it just depends on the dealer.

Put it this way. Suppose you are 5th in line (total) and have been waiting 6 months (Trueno/MT/Prem) and someone came in yesterday (40th in line) and requested a Trueno/MT/Base and the dealer has a Trueno/MT/base come in tomorrow? Would you want the dealer to offer it to you or not?

[Rustyoid]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

^This. Since the VIN is not formally attached to a name then it would be up to the dealer to decide who get's it.
In all fairness it really should go to whoever placed the order first (if they want it) regardless of what spec it was.

Correct, it does depend on the dealers internal process

So for example we have 3 Premium MT on "order"(requested), all different colours. If allocation comes and goes, and we do NOT have a request filled, but we were given a MT (if we got an AT we would not waste time calling customers who ordered a MT for THIS car. For a corolla we would though.) in a different colour or a base package. We would try to trade the allocation to match our oldest request (which will be a fat chance), and if not then we would call the customer with the oldest request and see if they would like the not matching package. If they do not, we would again try to trade for second on the list, and then offer it to them if a trade can't be made.

It really depends on the dealer, I'm lucky to work at a honest MSRP dealer.

I know some dealers are NOT submitting requests, and are just taking the individual allocations and calling down a list (often with a mark up if its a Premium MT)

[Petah78]

Originally Posted by Rustyoid

It really depends on the dealer, I'm lucky to work at a honest MSRP dealer.

I know some dealers are NOT submitting requests, and are just taking the individual allocations and calling down a list (often with a mark up if its a Premium MT)

I was under the impression that Canadian dealers are NOT allowed to mark up their vehicles? This is governed by law.

[Ambassador Foolish]

Thank you everyone for the insight, especially the bit about the calling for AT and MT. It's nice to know that there are technically two lines.

[Ambassador Foolish]

Originally Posted by Petah78

I was under the impression that Canadian dealers are NOT allowed to mark up their vehicles? This is governed by law.

What I've seen at a few dealerships is they don't mark up the actual cost of the cars, but the cost of their fees.

[Petah78]

Originally Posted by Ambassador Foolish

What I've seen at a few dealerships is they don't mark up the actual cost of the cars, but the cost of their fees.

Thanks. I have heard of them stuffing warranties and accessories that you don't want but I have not heard of them upping their "admin fees". I will never deal with a dealership that will do that and will file a complaint with OMVIC if they even hinted at it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Petah78

I was under the impression that Canadian dealers are NOT allowed to mark up their vehicles? This is governed by law.

Canadian car dealerships (well Ontario ones at any rate) can most certainly mark up all they want. The R in MRSP means Recommended not Required.
What they CAN'T do (by law) is advertise at one price and then tell you it is more later. If they want to mark an 86 up to $50K then they have to advertise it at $50K.

[Rustyoid]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Canadian car dealerships (well Ontario ones at any rate) can most certainly mark up all they want. The R in MRSP means Recommended not Required.
What they CAN'T do (by law) is advertise at one price and then tell you it is more later. If they want to mark an 86 up to $50K then they have to advertise it at $50K.

YES!!!

A ton of misconceptions going around, this is exactly right