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BRZ Second-Gen (2022+) -- General Topics General topics for the second-gen BRZ


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Old 04-20-2021, 07:23 PM   #1709
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Yeah - I knew it'd be tough to show. The lines I drew mimic how my eyes follow the "apparent" lines.

To me it's not that the new front fenders aren't fine, just that they don't seem to flow into anything at the back of the car. They're up there doing their own thing, and then back is doing its own thing.
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Old 04-20-2021, 07:38 PM   #1710
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my problem with the rear is the visual trick/faux diffuser disrupted by the license plate. The faux diffuser should either run level below the plate or the plate should be set into the trunk (like the current gen) with the faux diffuser still level but higher on the bumper.

I haven’t cut the diffuser on my current gen, but the first mod I’d do to the new car is chop the diffuser straight across the plate indent and let the plate flap.
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:06 PM   #1711
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Yeah - I knew it'd be tough to show. The lines I drew mimic how my eyes follow the "apparent" lines.
I gotta say, I like the lines you drew on the new car more than the current one!
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Maybe the secret is to get some orange pinstripe tape and go to town!
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One thing I always hated about the current car were the hiw the flares were on the fenders, it was more rx8/nc miata than s2000 or z32 300zx.

I wish the new car stuck out just a little wider to give it more of that s2k/z32 effect, but such is life.
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I agree that the rear seems like it was taken from a different car. It is not about the lines per se, but the connection of the lines front to rear. It looks like they were trying to blend different lines from GR Yaris and STI S209 to the shape/proportions of the current 86/BRZ. Many will found these new lines interesting, but from my point of view the lines are not connected well together. Maybe the design team was under a rush or wanted to put everything on the new car? I heard that this time there were designers and engineers from both companies working as "one", while the first time responsibilities were divided by the two companies (e.g. Toyota was doing the design, Subaru the manufacturing etc.)
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Am I the only one that finds it slightly amusing that we have pages of people nitpicking a design that a) hasn’t even been seen in person by most, b) will be one of the best looking cars available when it goes on sale this fall, and c) looks so much like the cars we all currently own/previously owned? Seriously, a lot of laypeople aren’t going to even know it was a redesign because the overall look is so similar. The first gen overall was a great looking car but it had all sorts of detail oddities and bizarre design decisions that made it look awkward at certain angles or perspectives. This is no different.


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I agree that the rear seems like it was taken from a different car. It is not about the lines per se, but the connection of the lines front to rear. It looks like they were trying to blend different lines from GR Yaris and STI S209 to the shape/proportions of the current 86/BRZ.
I'm not seeing any GR Yaris or S209 in the new car. If anything, the current car's front flares, being a simple profile shape rotated around the front axle line in a cone or ogive shape, bear resemblance to similar front flares on those cars. As opposed to the new car that has the front flares fair back into the main shape of the car more gradually going aft and don't resolutely continue revolving around the axle line as current-gen does like RX8 and NC Miata as @TheDonEffect noted.
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One thing I always hated about the current car were the hiw the flares were on the fenders, it was more rx8/nc miata than s2000 or z32 300zx.
Ditto. Never a fan of that style of flare, it always looks tacked-on and inelegant, and also not ideal for aero. You can push the air apart abruptly, but you need to *gently* put it back together...

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I wish the new car stuck out just a little wider to give it more of that s2k/z32 effect, but such is life.
It's not that they're not wide enough, it's that the fender is so TALL. Tops of S2000 fenders are super-low (another benefit of wishbone suspension yay!). So you can make this fairly radical shape that flattens out above the tires and then fairs back into the side of the car. Sexay. Super-wide flat fender lips and tacked-on conical (or slightly ogive) flares look kinda gross and are IMO used in a vain attempt to disguise just how tall the fenders are relative to the tire diameter. I think the new car's front fenders are a big improvement...
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Am I the only one that finds it slightly amusing that we have pages of people nitpicking a design that a) hasn’t even been seen in person by most

No you're not. I was going to post something to this phenomenon yesterday but it got too wordy. You got right to the point!
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Am I the only one that finds it slightly amusing that we have pages of people nitpicking a design that a) hasn’t even been seen in person by most, b) will be one of the best looking cars available when it goes on sale this fall, and c) looks so much like the cars we all currently own/previously owned? Seriously, a lot of laypeople aren’t going to even know it was a redesign because the overall look is so similar. The first gen overall was a great looking car but it had all sorts of detail oddities and bizarre design decisions that made it look awkward at certain angles or perspectives. This is no different.


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When you can't get any translation posting something like this is just unmitigated sadism.

I and I am sure others would love to find out if and how the AT on the car has been improved.

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