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01-15-2020, 01:02 PM | #15 |
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The 3-spoke steering wheel isn't bad. I know there are some versions that have the old-school 4-spoke wheels, which are ugly to me. The dashboard would need an update, but the enjoyment I get from driving far outweighs the styling queues. Pardon the expression: fat girls and mopeds are fun to ride, but you wouldn't want to be caught on one. But there is more to enjoy.... lol
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01-15-2020, 02:26 PM | #16 |
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TLDR and read but couldn't understood some parts, so I hope I'm not very irrelevant here.
Unless my house is not something like this: I wouldn't bother how my car looks. I think outside look is for the other drivers and what is inside and the feel of the car is for you. I cannot see how cool my car looks, while driving it. And I don't have time and will to sit near and watch it all day. I hate to look at this car at almost every angle, but especially: But if I did not have a chance to buy a BRZ, I would definitely buy it. I don't like the look of Miata ND, but if I could fit inside, I would bought it in the first place. And I love the look of this car at every angle: but I'd never bought it.... OK. I would. But not to use it. To sit near and watch it all day. |
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You could make the same argument about people and vanity. Untold fortunes are spent every year on fashion, cosmetics, plastic surgery, you name it. People like to make an impression. Also there is an aesthetic component - the way a car looks can just make people feel good. Just like looking at a beautiful painting, or beautiful architecture. I personally agree form should follow function, but that doesn't mean form isn't important
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I still get compliments on my car at least once a week. Imo miatas are too small and look like a gay giants rollerskate.
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To that I'd say you need to be more specific because there are four generation models of Miata. I'd also say, you should drive/thrash an MX-5 club car and see if you feel differently (assuming you fit, I know I'm too tall in the legs).
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Most 911s came with hideous steering wheels.
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I still kind of want a 996 GT3 even though I have faster, and more reliable, track cars already.
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I like how the 996 looks on the outside, but man the interior is BAD. I think the 997 interiors were pretty bad too. The 981/991s finally had a nice interior.
Engine is definitely a problem, I guess if you like it enough you can get LN Nickies put in. I kind of wonder what it would be like with a Honda J35 though lol, that would shed over 100lbs. |
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not a 996 but just upgraded from my FI BRZ to a 987.2 cayman and wouldn't go back in a heart beat. so much better power delivery and much higher build quality. completely agree that the 996 is an older car so it comes with much higher possible maintenance costs but with a little shopping around you can find a well sorted example that requires minimal work. just my 2 cents and I know the 996 and the 987.2 are two different beasts but still similar amounts of fun factor. and the 996 is hard to beat cost for performance.
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I just sold my 987.2 Cayman because for me the BRZ is a more fun car to drive on the street. I drove them both on the street and track for a year to decide which I would keep, and BRZ won. The Cayman's steering is too slow for me, and I'm really not a fan of the nonlinear ratio. I've never been a fan of big caster and the Porsche has a ton, makes the steering unnecessarily heavy which doesn't equate to "feel" for me. The BRZ is a lot more engaging and fun in real-world driving. At the track they're both great (with mods for front camber), and of course the Cayman is much faster at most tracks, though the BRZ was within 4 tenths at Thompson, on inferior tires...
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