Registry Thread: Failure After J02 Recall

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by NickCarmer

UPDATE: Dealership (different that one that did the recall) has had my car for a little over a week, found stuff in the oil pan and some passageways, I have the service manager talking with Subaru and it looks like a new engine in coming my way. However they just asked for my oil change records, which of course is a stack of autozone receipts for full synthetic and K&N filters. Shouldn't be any issue.. right?

How long to get an engine? when my service manager/technical service engineer checked, there weren't any in Subaru inventory, in the U.S. That was probably a month or so ago.

[aemravan]

well.. looks like I'll be shooting for an attempt at a recall repair... just ran a compression test and cylinder 3 is at 90 with cylinder 1 at 180, 25k mile motor on the 2013 frs...hopefully a salvage title/registration pending wont be an issue..... ? fml...

[kri$han]

Originally Posted by slumlord

As I said on the Australian forum, the fact that this is now happening in the U.S., Canada and Australia, points towards a systemic problem and not a dealership specific one. Sealant placement seems like a fiddly job that requires a fair amount of concentration. Laps in concentration leads to catastrophic consequences. They--i.e Toyota--should have thought a bit harder about how to apply the sealant so that it wouldn't have caused problem. i.e a tool or jig to assist with the job.

I'm not sure what the legal situation is like in the U.S. but I don't think that they would have a leg to stand on if they pushed their luck in the Australian courts.

Yes, the service manager at the dealership thats fixing my car says that Toyota Canada has sent them a template with very careful instructions of how to apply RTV sealant to the timing cover, which is clogging up all the oil passages in our cars and starving the main bearings of oil (and/or leaking out of the timing cover itself).

I just hope they take their time and do it carefully... AND apply the RTV when the motor is cool, and give it plenty of time to cure before testing it...

[slumlord]

Originally Posted by kri$han

Yes, the service manager at the dealership thats fixing my car says that Toyota Canada has sent them a template with very careful instructions of how to apply RTV sealant to the timing cover, which is clogging up all the oil passages in our cars and starving the main bearings of oil (and/or leaking out of the timing cover itself).

I just hope they take their time and do it carefully... AND apply the RTV when the motor is cool, and give it plenty of time to cure before testing it...

Wow! That's an interesting development.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by kri$han

Yes, the service manager at the dealership thats fixing my car says that Toyota Canada has sent them a template with very careful instructions of how to apply RTV sealant to the timing cover, which is clogging up all the oil passages in our cars and starving the main bearings of oil (and/or leaking out of the timing cover itself).

I just hope they take their time and do it carefully... AND apply the RTV when the motor is cool, and give it plenty of time to cure before testing it...

If they can make a template, why can't they make a gasket -

Yep, something sticky on one side and marked on one side - THIS SIDE OUT (AWAY FROM THE ENGINE)!

SMH


humfrz

[Gunman]

I wonder if its an actual 1:1 template, or just this:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/201...8V772-0191.pdf

[jflogerzi]

dear god thank you my 2013 series 10 was not on the list for the recall

[BrianBRZ]

2013 BRZ Stock and 86k
~500 miles since recall done

I took the chance that the dealership here had 7 successful recall fixes. Yesterday after driving and it was hot it sounded like a very, very loud bird. Called subaru; said to call if any other symptoms.
Today, almost stalled out at light. Shortly after, a few minutes, All lights popped on and stalled out. So far starts back up. Going to limp it home and hope it gets there and call again.
BRZ’s haven’t been as affected as the FRS so took the chance, considering it ran perfectly and never a problem prior to recall I am seriously concerned.


Got it back home. It kept nearly dying at every stop sign and light but didn’t stall out again. While the motor has been quiet and sounding good previous to yesterday, it again sounds like a very large, loud bird is under the hood. Sound coming from block, not belts or hoses or pulleys.
The Rpms drop low, sub 400, then it catches and rights itself.
Taking it in tomorrow. If need be the shop foreman who did the work will drive around with me awhile to see/feel/hear what I do.
When it’s cold it sounds great and runs fine, doesn’t try to die and doesn’t have the loud bird under the hood.
Adding that at times it feels sluggish or bogging with acceleration intermittently.
Putting this here as others have had same issue and so it doesn’t get lost on enthusiast page. Will keep this updated.

[Gunman]

The notion that BRZ's have been affected less, isn't really accurate, when you look at the ratio of recalled BRZ's to FRS's, it matches up pretty well.

Symptoms sound familiar. I bet the codes are related to the intake timing, probably on the RH side.

fwiw, service manager mentioned to me the other day, that hey have another BRZ in post recall, going down the same path as mine.

[maslin]

First, I’d get the large bird out from under your hood.



Second, that noise is probably metal and a different metal touching where they shouldn’t. Push it and it may spit that bearing out and knock, or gall and seize. Gall and sieze on a manual transmission is no fun. Get it back ASAP, I’d tow it.

[BrianBRZ]

So the large bird is the usual chirpy issue, I should have thought of this but it’s been hot out which means it gets louder.

The shop foreman, whom I know somewhat, took the car and after spending quite a bit of time on it was very annoyed to find that the mechanic he assigned to plug in all the hoses etc. did not connect the fuel purge line and a few other connections were not seated correctly. End result is I have the car back after this scare and he went through it top to bottom himself to ensure everything is as it should be.
Often the shop will have the foreman or top mechanic do all the hard work and once everything is together assign someone to finish it up. In this case nobody checked that persons work as should have been done.

So for now, at 500ish miles, it is running fine now. They also flashed the ecu for the ac/idle issue which I had asked them to do in ‘14 and it was never done. At least I didn’t pay anything.

[BrianBRZ]

The chirpy issue is the oil pressure pump, may be wrong on part I’m recalling what was said. Hotter it gets outside and the motor the louder it gets. Just hadn’t heard it that loud before. In ‘16 Subaru added sound dampening around the lines and unit but changed nothing else which is why there are less complaints at that point supposedly.

Bs or not??

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by BrianBRZ

The chirpy issue is the oil pressure pump, may be wrong on part I’m recalling what was said. Hotter it gets outside and the motor the louder it gets. Just hadn’t heard it that loud before. In ‘16 Subaru added sound dampening around the lines and unit but changed nothing else which is why there are less complaints at that point supposedly.

Bs or not??

The infamous chirp is from the high pressure fuel pump, not the oil pump.

[humfrz]

Reading this thread is like reading the Puyallup police blotter - I shouldn't be reading either one -

humfrz