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I'll weigh in here since there doesn't seem to be a ton of MT love in this thread...
Aside from the awkwardly high engagement point of the clutch (which you get used to after driving it and not other MT cars after a while), this MT is one of the best in the business. And I've driven a TON of Porsches. The auto, while a good transmission, is nowhere near the top of the heap when it comes to its peers. VW's DSG, Porsche's PDK, and even the now ubiquitous ZF 8-speed are all superior ATs. If you don't have any physical impediments and you're fluent with a manual transmission, you owe it to yourself to get the transmission that has best perfected its job, and the MT in these cars represents a higher evolution. Finally, I don't give a hoot what road you're on - nothing, NOTHING tops well executed downshift. I get to have 20-30 or so mini-orgasms every commute with my MT Hope that helps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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"Automatically less fun"
Headline quote from just-published review over on caranddriver.com http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ic-test-review |
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Get a manual, you'll regret getting an AT. Here's a recent example.... https://www.reddit.com/r/ft86/commen..._my_automatic/ I've seen people ask how hard or how much it would be to swap the transmissions which would cost a lot more than if you would have just got a MT to begin with. And a lot of people just regret it, AT gets a lot of hate because it takes away a lot of what this car is known for. Based on your first post you want a MT anyways don't sell yourself short. |
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I'm a die hard MT guy through and through owning 2 FG2 Civic Si's, 3 Celica 2 GT and 1 GTS for a car under 30K with the way the transmission shifts is amazing. Even though I sold my 15 FRS AT, the way the AT responds is commendable. I actually enjoyed the car and honestly never took away a single bit from what the car is really about. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I'm sure the AT is still a blast, even if maybe slightly less of one for the shifty-minded like me. The whole reason I bought this car was to return to shifting after a 10-year hiatus. But then, I only drive it on freeways voluntarily. Were I required to spend hours each day in b-to-b traffic, I might have taken another course.
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I'm not quite sure what the aversion is to a MT DD...OP mentioned he's got some knee issues, which fine - but if you have two functioning knees and feet I'm not quite sure what the big deal is. I DD mine and frankly, my commute would be way more boring if I wasn't shifting. I've driven an AT FRS too - great car! But it truly comes alive with a manual... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I don't get the argument about AT not being able to get all the power.
If the AT allows you to control the shift points, via paddles, then the AT can probably offer 95% of the performance of a MT. The ironic part is that a huge proportion of MT drivers never even let the revs go above 3k. They shift at 3k like a Civic, and then they don't even bother do downshift before a curve to enter the curve at 4000 rpms. If that's how you drive a stick, you might as well get an AT. The guy with an AT, but who knows how to use the paddles to keep the revs between 4k to 6k will get much more performance than the Civic style MT driver. So, as usual, it's all about the driver. Not the equipment. |
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Kinda agree here.. and for city driving where i am in a 15kph crawl 95% of the time, I cant enjoy the manual the way it should be. Its a simple enjoy manual 5% of the time or enjoy AT 95% of the time. And AT it was! Those saying MT is the only way it should be are probably those fortunate to have easy access to trafficless freeways and mountain roads. We dont have that much in our country. Backroads have potholes and freeways/expressways are limited to 100kph. The rest is all traffic road. The only real place i can enjoy the manual is a mountain road that i can visit only maybe 5x yearly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I drive 45 miles each way to work and sit in a good 15 minutes of traffic each way and I still prefer a manual over auto. Its not about power or 'driving it like it should be', I just like manual.
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