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06-03-2013, 02:21 AM | #1 |
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BRZ vs FRS Manufacturing Rate
I just heard that it was a written agreement of 1:5 ratio between Subaru BRZ and Toyota respectively. That's why there are so many more FRS and 86s than BRZs. Is this true?
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06-03-2013, 02:24 AM | #2 |
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I always thought it was 3 FRS : 1 BRZ.. maybe that's only for U.S. numbers. Last time I checked BRZs sold ~6000 in US, and FRS sold 18,000. I could be wrong.
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I thought it was closer to 6:1, but you'd have to look at global sales, or actual production numbers - usually available after the model year is done. In some countries it's more like 20:1. But total manufacturing - I'm not sure. There's a running total by month for SALES, but then again most members here would say their local Scion dealer has a few (or 10) on the lot, and their local Subaru dealer has none. So sales doesn't equal production either.
Bottom line - Toyota owns a share in Subaru. Both companies put engineers on the project. Toyota put up the capital, and Subaru provided the manufacturing plant. The agreement was that Toyota would get more units out of the deal. Not sure what exactly that piece of paper has the two companies agreeing to, but I'd love to see it. |
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7:3 Toyota/Subaru split sounds familiar to me...
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In the US Scion was allocated 10,000 FR-Ss for 2013, Subaru was allocated 6,000.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/20/s...-selling-cars/ In the UK the ratio was quoted as something like 9 Toyotas for every 1 Subaru, although I can't remember exactly.
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Oh, look, this thread again.
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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...uction+numbers
In America it's about 3:1 (75 FRS for 25 BRZ, but according the link above it's closer to 2.7:1), this varies based on country (Top Gear's review cited a 9:1 ratio for the U.K. (90 86's to 10 BRZ's). This comes down to whatever contract Toyota and Subaru drew up before they began to develop the car. Another factor is that from most accounts, Subaru was not convinced this car would be a sales success believing that nobody is REALLY interested in low horsepower RWD sports cars. Bottom line, Toyota WANTED to build the car, they paid Subaru to do it. |
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Where is that BRZ Master Race picture...
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