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[ry_zillafrs]

Originally Posted by golfyankee2121

1. I just have camber bolts in the front, no adjustment in the rear. My camber from my last alignment was:
FR: -1.5* FL: -1.5*
RR: -2.3* FL: -2.5*

You need to get camber bolts in order to adjust the front, but they're only like $40 so I think it's worth it. There is no way to adjust camber in the rear in stock form, so without buying LCA's you will be stuck with whatever natural camber comes with the drop. LCA's weren't worth the money for me as I DD my car and -2.5* isn't that terrible in the rear. No uneven tire wear or anything like that.

2. Will camber be needed? Camber is going to happen one way or another when you lower your car. The question should be whether adjustment components will be needed, and that is kinda up to you. On Sportlines, you will probably be around -3.0* of camber in the rear naturally with a 1.5" drop without any adjustment. Do you NEED to dial out that camber? Probably not, I still don't think you would see uneven tire wear or anything like that. If you do want to adjust however, you will have to buy LCA's. Camber bolts for the fronts should get you enough camber to alleviate any poke created by your wide wheels/offset combo, and I think you will be fine in the rear. I'll attach a picture in a little bit of what the poke looks like on my setup front and rear.

-J.B.

Thank you kind sir for taking your time and helping me out. It's really helping me narrow down my needs and wants and what not! cool, im looking forward for the front end poke picture. I really dont want to poke a lot.

[ry_zillafrs]

Another question! lol
I have the sportlines.
My car has 35,000 miles..should i be worried about the stock shocks? or should i invest in konis..

its just my DD.

[golfyankee2121]

Originally Posted by ry_zillafrs

Thank you kind sir for taking your time and helping me out. It's really helping me narrow down my needs and wants and what not! cool, im looking forward for the front end poke picture. I really dont want to poke a lot.

Originally Posted by ry_zillafrs

Another question! lol
I have the sportlines.
My car has 35,000 miles..should i be worried about the stock shocks? or should i invest in konis..

its just my DD.

1. I have attached the pictures of the poke my setup has. The last one kinda shows what the poke looks like from in front of the car. I hope this helps.

Front Passenger Front Driver


Rear Driver Rear Passenger

2. Your struts should be alright. I put my pro-kit on with stock struts at ~40,000 miles and I am almost to 60,000 now with no issues so far **knocks on wood**

-J.B.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ry_zillafrs

Another question! lol
I have the sportlines.
My car has 35,000 miles..should i be worried about the stock shocks? or should i invest in konis..

its just my DD.

I am on RSR Super Downs with over 1 1/2" drop. I have just about 100K on the car and all the stock shocks are still going strong. I would not ever remotely start worrying about it yet.

[churchx]

It all depends on where and how you drive. If you rally race on soviet roads, you can wear them down much much faster. It's a bit different for those that drive on Japan roads . It's a bit hard to actually start feeling when they are too worn, as it's gradual process and one can get used even to shocks that are noticeably underperforming compared to when they were new. But imho 90% chance that on normal "capitalist" roads with 35K miles you should be fine

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by churchx

It all depends on where and how you drive. If you rally race on soviet roads, you can wear them down much much faster. It's a bit different for those that drive on Japan roads . It's a bit hard to actually start feeling when they are too worn, as it's gradual process and one can get used even to shocks that are noticeably underperforming compared to when they were new. But imho 90% chance that on normal "capitalist" roads with 35K miles you should be fine

I drive through Detroit three of times a month. If they can survive that then a rally race on (post) Soviet roads should be a piece of cake.

[churchx]

Oh, familiar look. My advise for you would be to never think of getting camberplates with pillowball

[ry_zillafrs]

Originally Posted by golfyankee2121

1. I have attached the pictures of the poke my setup has. The last one kinda shows what the poke looks like from in front of the car. I hope this helps.

Front Passenger Front Driver


Rear Driver Rear Passenger

2. Your struts should be alright. I put my pro-kit on with stock struts at ~40,000 miles and I am almost to 60,000 now with no issues so far **knocks on wood**

-J.B.

wow not much poke at all! thanks for all your help! I'm gonna do this!! your setup is clean.

[ry_zillafrs]

Originally Posted by churchx

It all depends on where and how you drive. If you rally race on soviet roads, you can wear them down much much faster. It's a bit different for those that drive on Japan roads . It's a bit hard to actually start feeling when they are too worn, as it's gradual process and one can get used even to shocks that are noticeably underperforming compared to when they were new. But imho 90% chance that on normal "capitalist" roads with 35K miles you should be fine

yeah thanks man, i just daily my car at most ill take it to LA, OC, etc which is about an hour and a half away. but mostly local driving!
im excited now to get these on!

[ry_zillafrs]

Originally Posted by stevemp5

Eibach sportline with camber bolt and 18x8.5 +35 225/40 tire

got a rear pic? hows the rear camber without the LCA?

[Phantobe]

Originally Posted by ry_zillafrs

got a rear pic? hows the rear camber without the LCA?

You'll be fine it will add some extra camber but nothing that will severely accelerate tire wear, toe is more of a factor.

If you drop on sportlines or superdowns you will end up around 2 to 2.5 degs of negative camber in the rear. I'm on stock LCAs, I'll eventually upgrade but not really in a rush.

[ry_zillafrs]

Originally Posted by Phantobe

You'll be fine it will add some extra camber but nothing that will severely accelerate tire wear, toe is more of a factor.

If you drop on sportlines or superdowns you will end up around 2 to 2.5 degs of negative camber in the rear. I'm on stock LCAs, I'll eventually upgrade but not really in a rush.

toe is something i never understood...

[Phantobe]

Originally Posted by ry_zillafrs

toe is something i never understood...

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=4

Tire rack does a good job explaining.

"Additionally the vehicle's toe is one of the most critical alignment settings relative to tire wear. A toe setting that is just a little off its appropriate setting can make a huge difference in their wear. Consider that if the toe setting is just 1/16-inch off of its appropriate setting, each tire on that axle will scrub almost seven feet sideways every mile! Extend it out and you'll discover that rather than running parallel to each other, the front tires will scrub over 1/4-mile sideways during every 100 miles of driving! Incorrect toe will rob you of tire life." - Tire Rack

[ry_zillafrs]

Originally Posted by Phantobe

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=4

Tire rack does a good job explaining.

"Additionally the vehicle's toe is one of the most critical alignment settings relative to tire wear. A toe setting that is just a little off its appropriate setting can make a huge difference in their wear. Consider that if the toe setting is just 1/16-inch off of its appropriate setting, each tire on that axle will scrub almost seven feet sideways every mile! Extend it out and you'll discover that rather than running parallel to each other, the front tires will scrub over 1/4-mile sideways during every 100 miles of driving! Incorrect toe will rob you of tire life." - Tire Rack

shiettttt...would you recommend a toe kit when going 1.5" lower?