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The styling is much better though, IMO, but I think I'd rather have the NSX for the engine note. It's probably also a lot faster, but I don't really care about that. |
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06-02-2016, 04:16 AM | #464 |
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Right, it's not as powerful but as most of the folks on this website know, horsepower isn't everything.
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At about 10 years ago, NSXs could be had for mid 20s. Now, even high mileage cars are going for 40+. Shoulda bought one. Hindsight though.
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06-07-2016, 08:22 PM | #469 |
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This is a much better review:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDLUSqfqxg"]2017 Acura NSX: The Slowest Supercar in the World? - Ignition Ep. 143 - YouTube[/ame] If Toyota makes a back to basics new Supra (like the twins) it would be such a middle finger to cars like this new NSX. |
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I was about to argue that it would be inline with the hyprid 'sports cars' most companies are making, but now that I think about it I actually think you're right given the reports that BMW is using the collaboration as the basis for the new Z4 which is due for a refresh and they already made their hybrid 'sports car'. Given that BMW is selling their B48 engine at 125 hp/L, and tuners are pushing 150 hp/L out of it, I'd expect the Supra to come with a B58 pushing ~400 hp, the real test will be to see if Toyota pursues performance and keeps the weight to <3,300 lbs to make it a Corvette fighter or if they'll make the same mistake they did with the MkIV and make a mediocre grand tourer. BMW is doing a good job with engine noise lately though, here's the B58 in the 340i: [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwCFgA4gQoc"]2016 BMW 340i Touring (326 HP) - Pure Sound - YouTube[/ame] Or I'm wrong and Toyota is basically rebadging an i8 powertrain into a chassis shared with the Z4. Although the i8 strung out the B38 1.5L 3 cylinder to 228 hp, which is good news for the the rest of the engine family. |
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I'm pretty sure the new LC500 is the platform to be shared with the new Supra (how it always was with the Soarer). The LC500 would have a hybrid powertrain option, but I can't see how the new Supra would use either a V8 or a hybrid. IMO it will most likely have a 3rd engine (V6 turbo maybe) and will serve as a back to basics 90's style sports car, so that it won't be just a cheaper redundant option to the LC. I was just reading the cover story on July's Road and Track and they did a comparison between the M2, 1M, M235i, 228i, and also threw in an E30 M3 for good measure. They actually ranked the 228i the top choice out of the four modern Bimmers due to basically the same reasonings why we love driving the twins. For a Japanese auto maker, Honda is getting really too American these days and it shows with their product offerings. Last edited by krayzie; 06-07-2016 at 10:35 PM. |
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My bad on the cylinders but uh, they're both hybrid supercars in the sub-$200k range. The idea that people wouldn't cross-shop them seems kind of silly.
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@WolfpackS2k yea actually hmm it is a sort of hard decision because of the nifty V8. I dislike the 570s styling, and they removed the full active suspension and lowered the rev limit. The Acura styling I also dislike but it's more low key, which is better than flashy but not very beautiful. Hard choice, I'd probably go used McLaren 12c over either. |
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I mean I wouldn't kick either out of bed for eating crackers but you know, since we're basically bench racing here. |
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People initially called the i8 the homeless man's 918/P1/LaFerrrari, but I think the NSX is actually a lot closer to being that.
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